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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Eventually they are going to require Internet on all TVs, it's only a matter of time

[–] Manifish_Destiny 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then I make my own mainboard.

Good thing I saw that pcbwaydotcom ad.

[–] Opisek 5 points 5 months ago

I'm afraid reverse engineering proprietary internal connection is not an easy feat.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's standard here in sweden to deliver TV over internet these days, TV can fuck itself sideways and die

[–] Aceticon 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You can possibly use a cheap chinese TV Media Box (about €35 for a decent one from Aliexpress) to stream Live TV over the Internet and then just connect it to the TV via HDMI.

In my experience those things aren't loaded with crap and have no Ads (for some, there are even things like libreElec if you want to get full control of it) plus it makes engineering sense to keep the smarts separate from the dumb TV (the actual dumb part of a TVs lasts a lot longer than the typical period between video streams moving to newer and better encoding methods - and decoding of those is done in hardware, not software - so if the smarts are in a separate cheap box, it's a lot cheaper to get support for newer kinds of video streams a few years down the line and keep the TV than to replace the whole TV just to get the newer video stream decoders)

Personally I use a Mini-PC with Linux and Kodi, but Mini-PCs are more expensive, require more expertise to set up and I do a lot more than just streaming live TV with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Word of warning, loads of those are full of hidden malware that will attempt to infect the other devices on your network. Probably best to make your own every time.

[–] Aceticon 1 points 5 months ago

Apparently not loads, but some are. People can get the more expensive branded stuff if they're worried or just overwrite the firmware with something like LibreELEC.

Also for that reason I prefer my current solution with a Mini-PC, though at about €150 rather than €35 it's a lot more expensive, which for me is fine as I use it for a lot more stuff than only as a media player, but since I'm a little wary of pitching something which requires quite a bit more technical expertise to use to people which might or not have that expertise, I only mentioned that option last and in passing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Serious question: what’s the mechanism of this? I can think of a few it might be but I honestly don’t know:

  • Is it that 99.9% of the market wants smart TVs and there’s not enough demand for dumb TVs to support a production run?
  • Is it that existing companies can somehow block smaller upstarts from entering the market, and then they decided as a cartel to end dumb TVs?
  • Is the NSA infiltrating TV companies to force this product line choice?
  • Is there a new law requiring that all TVs get smart?
  • Some mechanism I haven’t thought of?