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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

just wanna add that it is easier to get them with testosterone. i think it makes sense to make that distinction here since there are literal cis women body builder who take it as performance enhancing drugs.

[–] norimee 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Interesting. I wasn't sure if it gets harder for trans women, when they are on estrogen. Do they loose the abs?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is absolutely some muscle loss when on hrt. A study suggests transfems are comparable to cis women after about 2 years on hormones. Dunno if transfems have an easier time having visible abs, though.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577.full?ijkey=yjlCzZVZFRDZzHz&keytype=ref

[–] StaySquared 0 points 2 weeks ago

Ah... so the transfem loses lung capacity and bone density?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

depends on the order. if you build abs on testosterone (t) then go on estrogen (e) then you just can with relatively easily upkeep them. if you went on e before working out, its just as hard as for cis women. so hardcore cis women body builder go on t for a short time (some weeks) to get big muscles easier before retuning to e.

[–] garbagebagel 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm gonna ask for t for totally cis reasons now. I'm definitely a body builder and absolutely not an 🥚.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

So, it’s not exactly easily available for workout purposes, but, much like antibiotics, aquarium and fish farm suppliers are not bound by the normal laws of pharmaceuticals but are bound by food safety to make sure the stuff is pure and uncontaminated.

(source: I have family who work in fish farming)