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[–] [email protected] 251 points 6 months ago (9 children)

62 projected seats for nazis... great job citizens, great job -.-

[–] [email protected] 158 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There are even more, included in Nonaligned. The German Nazis (afd 16 seats) were kicked out of ID

[–] [email protected] 124 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Not to mention they were kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM. Wake me up in 5 years when we can hopefully stop this...

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago

kicked out of the Nazi group, because THEY WERE TOO EXTREME FOR THEM

I was going to joke suggesting that, but you already had my joke crushed by reality being exactly that 😒

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

On paper they were more extreme, the right loves to be seen as not that far right when in fact they are

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (1 children)

SIXTEEN!?

sorry, I gotta vomit.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ 57 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Second strongest party in germany as a whole and strongest in east germany. Ahead of all member parties of our current government.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Thanks ~~Obama~~ Merz and Springer. Their constant Ampel bashing really fucked everything up.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ 41 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The Ampel may have gained control over the government at the worst possible time. Everything is currently shit and people always blame the government, even though some of that is not under their control, which currently places blame on the only three important center-left parties. Thus people turn right.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago

unfunny thing though is, that most of the shit we have to deal with right now comes from the time CDU/CSU was in charge.

I... I'm so fricking done.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

And the CDU blames them for everything they fucked up the past 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's a tale as old as time. Conservatives fuck up so many things that they can't be fixed in the one term other parties occasionally get. And when those then fail to fix everything, people go "see? They're not better. Might as well vote conservative again."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Even worse; the Greens get blamed for shit the FDP does, because people don't know how coalitions work.

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[–] KISSmyOSFeddit 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just had the sudden urge to downvote your comment just because I hate what you said so much.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thing is, they would've probably gained even more votes if they didn't incur so many scandals recently. People will probably forget about those until the next national elections

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and on the other hand, Mannheim and Sylt kinda helped them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not sure about Sylt, but Mannheim was devinetively in their favour.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And ID got 30 seats in France. Macron is having a new election on the 30th and well

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can anybody explain his thinking? Why would you hand the fascists the wheel?

[–] synapse1278 5 points 6 months ago

I am ashamed of my fellow citizens for making this happened. 35 seats, they get 35, RN + La France Fière (Zemmour).

[–] Badeendje 66 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago

around 16.5% yeah, that is not just mind boggling but also fecking disheartening.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I blame it on the greens for not fielding Habeck as chancellor candidate. I'm probably going to be salty about that one for the next 40 years.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sadly you can blame it on FDP for blocking every single positive thing this government might have done.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

We could've had a Green-Red or at least Red-Green government is what I mean.

...but, no, the Greens said "there's no female chancellor candidate, there must be one, therefore we will field a politician who's at least two magnitudes less electable" -- and that after no less than 16 years of Merkel. As if anything had to be proven on that front. As if self-congratulatory symbol politics would ever have gotten us anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree that Habeck would have been the better candidate, I just don't believe he would have changed the outcome by that much.

In the end I think much of the difference between polls and election came from people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

people saying they want climate protection, but in the end the yearly flight to Mallorca was more important.

Nope that's cope. Classical green cope pattern, btw: "The people have a good heart but the devil of carbon is whispering in their ear".

Firstoff: No, people are aware that there might be some quality of life changes involved in climate change. The question they're asking is not "whether" but "do they make sense". "Do they lead somewhere".

Secondly: Sleeper trains and ferries exist. In principle you can fall asleep in Spandau and wake up in Palma.

Thirdly, because it's been so much fun: Who the fuck thought mandating houses to get individual heat pump installations was a good idea -- I mean I get it, members of the green party are usually well off, they bought one of those and thought it would be a great idea for everyone. Thing is: Ask scientists, they're saying district heating is the much better solution. When it comes to resource usage, overall cost, and definitely cost for the home owners.

But the Green party would never field a candidate to win, or a policy to be popular, or that failing, to be actually efficient because y'all are too busy driving your Cayenne to the farmer's market. And I mean what I say there: The Greens are considered hypocrites, caring about a gazillion things but nature and people's relationship with it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Greens and SPD never had a majority in any poll at the time and they weren't even close to it. Greens might have been stronger but probably SPD weaker in turn. We might have ended up with Jamaika in the end. Don't forget that a conservative anti-Habeck campaign would've also been possible. He had some unpopular positions back then, too, like giving weapons to Ukraine. What kind of insane warmonger amirite?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What kind of insane warmonger amirite?

That's some Fundie shit. Seriously, noone but Fundies consider Realos to be war-mongers. They're also the only ones considering "OlivgrΓΌn" an insult. It's like vegans acting surprised when noone cares about their moraline-sour opinion of vegetarians.

Conservatives wouldn't have been able to touch Habeck, either, the man can quarrel with SH farmers calling him a clueless city boy and come out on top with everyone respecting him. Remember his Israel speech? Where one was left wondering "that was damn good, why isn't the chancellor doing that"? "why isn't the foreign minister doing that"? The answer is simple: Because neither of them are able to. They had to ignore their actual functions in government to get the message out.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

That might have been a strategic mistake idk, but it's not as bad as the cxu and many more parties straight up copying nazi talking points and steering the discussion towards the afd and against the GrEeNs ~Β°oΒ°~

The newspapers are also to blame.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

rise of the far right all over Europe I blame the greens of Germany for it

Nah, mate, this is about the structure of media ownership. I won't be one to defend the greens of Germany, they're disgusting, but the real problem is that private media have interest in the right winning the elections, and there's also a ton of money spent boosting far right influencers in social media

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm voting as hard as I can, okay πŸ₯΅

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wish you could just vote harder

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Well, you can vote harder. The polls are not the only place you vote. Every purchase is a vote. Most people neglect their consumer power. I’m boycotting hundreds (if not thousands) of harmful companies and products, including Amazon. You can always vote harder by investigating the shops and brands you support. You can investigate whether your bank invests in the fossil fuel energy and change banks (or better, become unbanked). You can follow the [email protected] community.

E.g. certainly one small thing @[email protected] can do is ditch sh.itjust.works for a different instance. Website weight has quadrupled since Cloudflare took hold because CF encourages web admins to create heavy websites. sh.itjust.works is CF-based.

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[–] Matumb0 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if we should call them Nazi, as they kicked out the German Nazis, as explained in other comments. Maybe call them nationalists or ultra nationalists?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (4 children)

They kicked out the German Nazis because they celebrated the SS, which is a no-go for French Nazis. Doesn't make them less Nazi, just the French kind that doesn't like to be killed by German Nazis

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

ECR is shit, they're a bunch of eurosceptic, anti-immigration, libertarian conservative nationalists, but they don't hold a candle to ID, who are that, but on steroids.

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