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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it even possible to do effective geoengineering if the biggest countries aren't even on the same page?

[–] AA5B 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, and that is one of the huge problems with it. One developed country can do geoengineering that affects everyone, for better or worse. One developed country can decide to take the risk regardless of the rest of the world.

If my relatively well off country decides to spread some aerosol in the stratosphere to reduce incoming solar, for example, it can likely afford to make a difference in the rate of climate change. But just by calling it climate change, we’re recognizing it could affect everyone. Whatever I’m pumping into the stratosphere will not stay within my borders. If I’m able to change climate patterns in my country, those changes do not stop at the border

And of course a related issue is that any intentional change in climate systems will have different effects in different places. Even if you succeed, there will inevitably be those worse off. You can easily picture this turning into an out of control conflict. We all know about historical atrocities around resource exploitation of less developed countries, so what do you expect will happen if weather patterns are intentionally changed to benefit the climate of the wealthier countries at the expense of those who can’t afford it?

[–] dyathinkhesaurus 3 points 5 months ago

Agreed. See the recent floods in Saudi Arabia due to cloud seeding for rain, for example. They've been doing it for years, but suddenly Everything Changed.

[–] str82L 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At the risk of giving away spoilers, see Neal Stephenson's Termination Shock. A truly awesome read.

[–] AA5B 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People keep saying that but the queue at my library is ridiculously long so I’ve never been able to read most of his books

[–] str82L 2 points 5 months ago

Here's another library that might be able to help you: https://annas-archive.org/md5/e220f3cdd16f62f0ed8045af2530d11e