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[–] Dultas 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Same, I've been on agile projects with quick efficient meetings most of the time. But I'm a project now with a 45 minute standup every morning for like 15 people. The lead just lets people ramble on and try to solve issues in standup. Backlog grooming and sprint plannings get equally sidetracked as well.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One common thread between these projects was that we used actual, physical note cards to track things. They were also logged in Jira, but the standups were 5-10 people actually standing in a room tracking burn down and status with cards taped to a wall. Nobody wants to be standing for more than 15 minutes, and anything that needed a sidebar was handled with a smaller group in another impromptu meeting.

[–] Dultas 3 points 5 months ago

I agree, in my experience in person stand-ups are much better than online.

  1. People don't want to sand around and want to get back to their desk.
  2. Parking lot discussions can just be handled in the hall outside the meeting room 90% of the time and don't require adding a new meeting to a calendar, although if there is only one issue that needs further discussion we just usually let everyone else drop call and handle it then.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Similar, except we only budget for half an hour so as it drags on past the first or sometimes even second hour it takes over lunchtime.

Even when people avoid trying to say anything so as not to drag it out, the mere fact that the meeting is happening means that it will manage to take up the whole block of time and then some.

Ironically I'm starting to wonder if the solution might be MORE rather than fewer meetings, bc people need SOME time to work it all out, so if there were other more focused ones then all that could go there rather than have to take place in the only meeting it can - where it takes up the time of the entire team.