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Transition from litter box to doing business outdoors (slrpnk.net)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/cat

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We've got one cat 6months and the other 3months old, currently both using the litterbox. However we're going to move to a new house soon, and eventually try to transition them to getting used to doing their business outdoors instead of the litterbox. Does anyone have any tips or best practices for this transition?

Edit: I dont live in the US, I live in Scandinavia - huge garden and away from traffic. The cats are fine being outside - most cats here are in fact outside. We have norwegian forest cats and they're meant to be both indoors and outdoors - even during winter!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Forest_cat

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[–] Blue_Morpho 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Your government knows it's a problem but doesn't care.

"A report by the Norwegian Ornithological Association (NOF) from 2018 states that there were about 770,000 cats in Norway in 2016, and that these together kill circa 7 million birds each year. "

https://vkm.no/download/18.6c03f64d17795a5f8697c4f0/1613629055590/Mandate_the%20risk%20domestic%20cats%20pose%20to%20biodiversity%20in%20Norway%20ToR.pdf

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you would rather they cull the cats i take it? The cats have been around since 1000AD per the Wiki article. Sounds to me like at this point they are a native species.

Id understand if you were advocating for laws similar to how wolves/deer are treated. Yes keeping populations in check is important... Though it sounds like you would rather kill all the now "Native" cats.

[–] Blue_Morpho 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is no need to kill the cats.

Spay and neutering feral cats has become the cultural norm among environmentally conscious youth.

But the problem isn't true feral cats. The problem is pet owners who allow their cats to be outdoor cats. Pet cats aren't subject to normal predator/prey population constraints. They are fed at home and will then kill all native small fauna beyond natural recovery. Because after all small fauna is gone, the cats go inside to eat as much as they want. The environment can never achieve a natural balance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

An what if the native cats are the same as the house cats? Are you still saying its better to just not have a cat at all? Even if your own cat is spayed and neutered, its better to keep it trapped inside a house all day?

Humans fucked up, over a few thousand years ago. I don't understand why you think cats shout suffer today, for a mistake we made 1000s of years ago.

Also id like to point out that I agree with you. When it comes to America, or other countries where we can still correct our mistake. Picking on a country where its the societal norm doesn't seem like the right place to start.

[–] Blue_Morpho 3 points 5 months ago

That the native cat is also a house cat is irrelevant to the problem. House cats destroy the ecosystem because they eat food you provide after they've depopulated the local environment. It doesn't matter what breed they are.

Would you let your dog run completely free too? No boundaries, no leash, day or night?

A responsible cat owner can let their cat outside but do it supervised.

And if you are not getting your cat from a shelter, you are perpetuating the problem today. It's not something from 1000 years ago if you bought from a breeder.