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[–] Lost_My_Mind 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Honest question. How did we get here? How are we discussing the very real world situation where an elderly sex offender who probably won't see a jail, (but absolutely would if he had been just some nobody) is running for president, again........

Against another elderly man, whom everybody seems to dislike but everybody is going to vote for again because the other guy is even worse.

Both candidates very well could die in the next 4 years, and the stress of the job dramatically increases those odds.

Biden is older at 81, while trump is 77 (according to google), but Biden is much more physically healthy, whereas if Weeble-Wobbles wanted to make a trump liscensed Weeble-Wobble they wouldn't need to make a new body shape for them. Just use the existing shape.

How did we get here? How did we get to the point where everything sucks, everybody knows it sucks, but we're just supposed to along with it......and we do!

So now we get to watch as a clearly mentally incomplete elderly man falls asleep, and farts in the court room. I'm unclear if its illegal to do that, but you have to imagine whomever the judge was had to be offended at the very least. With anyone else, I'd say it's a bad idea to piss off the judge of your case. In this case though, I'm not sure it matters. He doesn't face responsibility for anything. He doesn't care. This is all a mockery to him.

HOW DID WE GET HERE????

[–] disguy_ovahea 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Heavy oppression of the poor through underfunded education and social systems, coupled with propagandist media preying on their fear of the unfamiliar while blaming their oppression on the Democrats’ desire to help everyone but them. Like it or not, many of them are the victims, not the problem.

[–] CheeseNoodle 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel better the UKs only been in election season for a week and we've already seen 2 different attempts at election interferance by the current ruling party.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 2 points 6 months ago

Doesn't so much make me feel "better" as makes my sadness cover more ground. Like "Oh shit! This bullshit isn't an Americzn thing? It's just a human thing???"

I was joking to myself earlier that if Earth were a Lemmy instance, I'd register on a different instsnce.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

First past the post's logical conclusion Also paying for sex is not a crime, neither is paying them to shut up about it. Why can't they use his other real crimes instead of that monica lewinsky bullshit ?

[–] disguy_ovahea 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The crime is falsifying business records, not paying for hush money. He also didn’t pay her for sex. She’s a porn actress and model, not a prostitute.

The documents case is postponed indefinitely by Judge Cannon. The same goes for the Federal election trial by Chutkan, pending SCOTUS’s ruling on presidential immunity. The Georgia election case is pending a state Senate investigation of the DA, Fani Willis.

Here’s a handy trial tracker by the Associated Press.

[–] Blumpkinhead 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure paying for sex is a crime, at least in most places in the U.S.

[–] disguy_ovahea 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

He didn’t pay her for sex. He pressured her into it. He paid her not to tell anyone until after the election, but hid the payments as compensation for his personal attorney while in office. He’s being charged with falsifying business records.

[–] voluble 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's true that sex wasn't paid for. The role of pressure in this case is complicated.

If anyone is curious to read Daniels' own words on this, check out the pdf court transcripts for May 7th and May 9th.

The transcripts are long, but interesting, and worth reading if you have a few hours. As a normie, I was only interested in the sex stuff. The facts surrounding documents seem pretty clear.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

I don't mean what legal heads think. I mean, it's -not- a crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Getting a blowjob wasn't the crime. Lying under oath was the crime.
Same with this. The sex and hush money isn't a crime, it's the false business records that are

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Makes sense, feels like low hanging fruit with sex based humiliation on the part of the prosecution. I wish they'd go against his worst, actual crimes, especially the presidential crimes and neuter future presidents from doing those crimes as well.