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Why YSK: Choosing an instance with defederation policies you're most comfortable with is important to make your Fediverse experience smooth in the long run.

Here is a chart showing the defederation count of each instance.

Instance Defederated with how many other instances
beehaw.org 405
feddit.de 101
lemmy.world 63
lemmy.ml 44
sh.itjust.works 4
exploding-heads.com 3

You can get it by going to the instance's instance list and scrolling/Ctrl+Fing down to "Blocked Instances". To find the instance list, go to https://your-instance.url/instances, for example, https://lemmy.world/instances

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[–] gk99 92 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is kinda why I wish we had user-level instance blocking, there aren't any popular instances that match my preferred blocklist and I don't want to have to go out and request federation for everything I want to see. For example, the top sites I don't want to see are lemmy.ml, lemmygrad, and exploding-heads, and while beehaw gets all three, they also block instances I don't find problematic like lemmy.world.

So I ended up on lemmy.world and manually block all the stuff I don't want to see, but it'd be loads easier if I could just ask not to be shown content from instances I want to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Kbin allows user-level instance blocking, so that functionality should be feasible to implement in lemmy eventually.

[–] techgearwhips 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Couldn't this be accomplished by deploying your own personal instance? Or am I missing something.

[–] IverCoder 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, however it might not be that simple especially when considering costs.

[–] techgearwhips 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty cheap if your personal server is just for you... And even if you want to add a few friends & family. I plan on starting my own instance next month.

[–] IverCoder 4 points 1 year ago

In my country those prices I looked up were far from cheap 🙃 but soon I hope I do get the money to have my own server

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

If you're on android, connect has the ability to filter whole instances.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beehaw federates with lemmy.ml

[–] Reliant1087 2 points 1 year ago

I find the whole thing a bit infuriating actually. I get the reasons for all the other defeds and actually support them. Unfortunately they refuse to do so with lemmy.ml because it's one of the largest instances and their users usually don't start shit on beehaw?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lemmygrad and exploding-heads I can understand but why lemmy.ml? It's a general purpose instance with no known bot/Nazi/Tanky/other fascist/etc. infestion.

[–] joe 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought lemmy.ml was run by the same people as lemmygrad. (And the Lemmy code creators)

At the beginning (of the reddit exodus) the admins were definitely banning people from lemmy.ml for being "critical of the Chinese government" calling it racism. ("Orientalism" was their term.)

I switched to lemmy.world that same day, and haven't really kept up with that instance since then.

[–] teamevil 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's funny when assholes (and it's always the assholes of any group) scream that anything slightly challenging a point of view is racist/phobic...no it's not you fuck heads there can be legitimate different points of view without it being from hate. For example I'm an American, some shit we do well, lots more shit we do poorly, but calling anyone who calls the US on their bullshit "racist/phobic/current term de jour" makes me assume the person accusing is a moron and their opinion shouldn't matter.....it only gets weird when you have two genuine morons trying to claim the high ground like say a white supremacists being upset a black supremacist is calling them out, they both suck.

I'm sorry....I'm in Florida and there's so much goddamn stupidity here it's insane. Take drag shows...have you ever been to one? I'm straight straight....but drag shows are a blast, everyone leans in enjoys themselves and move on. The shows are aimed at adults and spend no time indoctrinating kids unlike the Catholic church...hell I can't think of one news story about a kid getting molested at a drag show/brunch/library hour, can't say the same for church, but nobody is trying to protect the kids from getting diddled by "god's" messengers.

I've lost my point, but fuck Florida.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've tagged you as incoherent. ✌️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd have to see some specific examples to pass judgement.

[–] joe 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Here ya go: https://lemmy.ml/post/1167199

Edit: be sure to scroll down for the admin comments on the matter.

And note that I do not know if they have since changed course on this for lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy crap. This should be it's own post. Just purged all the "serious" communities I was following on there.

[–] joe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I know what you mean but I had to laugh because I linked a post. That is to say, it was its own post haha.

I'm not going to lie, I'm constantly waffling between Lemmy and kbin in no small part because Lemmy (the software) is maintained by that same admin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Haha yeah, good point. I guess I should have specified it would be a good post on this community specifically where people look to find handy tips for using Lemmy effectively. The fact that one of the huge instances where a lot of your search results come from when you're starting out looking for content has such an aggressive pro-totalitarian moderation strategy is an unexpected, but very useful insight.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm using Lemmy because it looked easier to set up but damn, once there's kbin apps I might have to look into switching my server over to kbin.

[–] joe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know, kbin doesn't require JavaScript either. Which might be another plus considering the Lemmy vulnerability that was just exploited using JavaScript.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I also don't like JS, I just want to point out that not having JS on the website does nothing to prevent an XSS attack that injects JS into a site. This is more of a back-end kind of problem.

[–] joe 2 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the clarification, thanks.

[–] Reliant1087 1 points 1 year ago

I get you. I'm left leaning politically but after seeing life under totalitarian leftist regimes first hand, that's a hard pass for me and I find myself struggling with interacting with people who think that's okay.

Even though I like lemmy more than kbin, I've been thinking of switching too because Earnest sounds like a great guy whose philosophy is more in alignment with what I believe in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] joe 3 points 1 year ago

That is one of them. He comments throughout the threads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems to have been taken out of context. Their response seems to be about a supposed "white genocide" some white supremacists have thought up and I fully agree with him that that's bunk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know how to share a specific context with N number of context like I could on Reddit yet. See the comment they're replying to. They're only using "white genocide" as an example of something people wouldn't call you a "genocide denier" over you disagreeing with.