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[–] Jackthelad -3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why would I want to disgrace myself by volunteering for a political party?

[–] Tagger 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Labour are better than the alternative and helping to bring about a better government would be a productive use of your time?

[–] Jackthelad -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, "better government" remains to be seen.

These are politicians we're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, good ole' "They're all bad and there's nothing we can do about it so might as well just sit on our asses as the world burns down around us instead of doing literally anything meaningful to help"

Such a classic.

[–] Jackthelad -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are you familiar with the Post Office scandal, or maybe the infected blood one instead?

Because both of those things happened under Labour and Conservative governments, and neither has done anything about it. The idea that somehow one side is inherently better than the other is pure copium.

People don't really care much for Labour. They just don't want the Conservatives anymore. That's not a recipe for amazing success in government.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are you familiar with Brexit, Teresa May's Hostile Environment for Immigrants, Windrush, partying while the Queen mourned alone following the covid rules, Trussonimics sending inflation soaring and Sunak literally today denying that there's a problem with DWP putting hundreds of thousands of unpaid carers into thousands of pounds of debt by not allowing them to earn a penny over £151 if they want to keep a single penny of their payment for providing care, noting in their system that the increase in the minimum wage put them over, not warning them, not even cancelling the payment, just waiting for literally years then taking them to court to claim back all the money in the intervening time?

The Conservative Party membership is pathologically committed to choosing the worst possible Prime Minister from any pair of candidates.

This "both sides" stuff is such a croc of *.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

So better to just do nothing instead, aside from bitching on the internet, amirite?

No government is going to be perfect, but it's never going to get better unless people actually do something instead of sitting on their ass and whining.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Think less of it as volunteering for a political party and more as volunteering for ideological pragmatism. You don't have to have cloned sensibilities to work with someone or some organization to better your country/county/city.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Is it really that disgraceful?