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[–] Thekingoflorda 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

ASML’s machines are very advanced using a lot of specialized parts (who’s export is probably also banned) and taking a lot of skilled labour to make. China will probably be able to eventually get there, but it’s going to be a while.

[–] werefreeatlast 4 points 1 month ago

Like a loooong fucking while. Or I mean they could just stick with what they got.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Thekingoflorda 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Samsung started with 5nm in 2018, so that’s still 6 years behind.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm writing this message from a laptop with 10nm chip. It works fine. nanometers aren't everything. Most of the time they are just marketing.

[–] Thekingoflorda 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yea that is true, but in smaller form factors a 10 nm chip wouldn’t be sufficient anymore. They generally consume more energy or they are slower.

If consumers had the choice between the two chips they generally choose the smaller ones because of their inherent benefits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You can do a lot with a working 5nm process. This will hurt Samsung and TSMC (and by extention Qualcomm and Intel) a lot. The market isn't just the most cutting edge stuff.