this post was submitted on 21 May 2024
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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] RestrictedAccount -5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

OK, that’s what you’re against, but what are you for?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mutual aid, free association, common ownership of the means of production, coalescing into a society where people contribute out of genuine gratitude to be part of it

[–] RestrictedAccount -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That is totally legal right now. Have at it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You're not actually responding to my point, you're just reacting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

As we're all the CIA assassinations.

[–] Cipher22 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honest smiles. I'm sure exceptions are sure to exist, but for the majority. When I've even been adjacent to them, they're pretty awesome. I don't care if it's a wedding between two wonderful ladies or my dad getting a Russian WW2 M1891. There's that grin, half not believing, half awe, and half pure childish glee that really can't be beat. I stand for everyone getting that at some time.

It's gonna suck most of the time, and some people are gonna need a hand to get there, but damn, it's worth it.

[–] RestrictedAccount -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Very cool.

Very cool.

And you can convince a few dozen Ph.Ds to give your kid a university education in exchange for honest smiles considering they have mouths to feed?

[–] Cipher22 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You asked what I'm for, not whether it was practical. Lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

For whatever it's worth, I'm on the same boat as you with the 1.5 smiles per smile: truly fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I guess we'll need to find a leftist or two in academia.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Worker Ownership of the Means of Production.

[–] RestrictedAccount 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is not illegal. My wife works for an employee owned company.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you truly believe that systemic critique is based merely on what is legally permissable and not based on systemic pressures and forces, then you need to do some reading.

[–] RestrictedAccount -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I know people who work for employee owned companies right now and they are making a metric shit ton of money.

What most of the Tankies on Lemmy seem to want is to recreate the Soviets where the Government makes the decisions. That has never been anything but the easiest way to set up a dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I can't speak for everyone here but I'm fine with everyone making a shit ton of money at co-ops. Personally I couldn't find one for my profession in my city. ☹️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, what socialists actually want is for this paradigm of worker ownership to be writ large across society.

And the reason for that is - it is no measure of comfort to be told "mice are well within their rights to enter the lion's den".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I repeat, If you truly believe that systemic critique is based merely on what is legally permissable and not based on systemic pressures and forces, then you need to do some reading.