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I'm not sure if you're conflating Biden with the totality of human civilization here, or just not understanding what protecting public land means in the context of US government action.
No no, I get that US corporations ask for public land for privatized gains all the time, and keep increasing how much they ask for when they get it. The number of requests keeps going up, so the number of refusals going up isn't shocking.
Did you realize that almost 11 million acres of the 12.8 million of 'conservation' were simply rollbacks from the Trump era to the Obama era? He had 2 years to so that, but waited until 2023. Edit:Source
My point is that it's a single metric and out of context does not actually tell you why they were threatened to begin with. I.E. maintaining the status quo does not warrant a medal. Still voting for him.
It wasn't a matter of 'waiting', as the link in your source, notes...
2023 was finalization, not a last-minute "Oh, NOW I'm going to protect things".
Governments have intentionally slow processes.
Cool. So it was the status quo, and just hitting 'undo'. Why the meme portraying that as the greatest conservation act in history? It's disingenuous.
Sorry, would you prefer "Biden is on-track to unfuck more land given away by a corrupt corporate crony than any modern first-term president in history"?
I didn't realize that you can only claim credit for something if no one before you had ever done anything to fuck it up in the first place.
Thanks for admitting you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, though, and were just grasping at straws with that "Well, he didn't do it until 2023!" bit.
Sorry, I just realized - that quote you gave, claiming was in my sourced link.. isn't. I just re-read it and did multiple searches. After googling your quote, I found it on a separate doi.gov article. So, thanks for mocking me for something you didn't check. You also highlighted that he had from 2021 as well, so I don't even know why you're using that as an argument. He still had 2 years.
But you're right. When I saw that like 85% of the argument of this claim is for hitting 'undo', I assumed that the 2023 date was due to political delay for posterity, not political delay per the status quo. My bad.
Thanks for not checking your own attempt at a 'gotcha'.
... Jesus Christ. I legitimately can't tell if you're being serious right now.
Dude, THAT quote is in my link. Yeah.
THIS ONE wasn't.
Edit: OK, I see what you're saying now, but you removed the OTHER hyperlink from that quote to make it readable, and there are no less that 40 links in this article. My apologies for not clicking through each and every linked article before responding. Jesus.
Perhaps just the ones relevant to the point you were making would have been a wise choice.
YOU used that as a counter-claim that it was done 2023 because the leases were suspended in 2021.. as a claim for 2023 being a record year? Obviously I'm not pre-researching potential counter-claims to my argument that don't make any sense.
Now, to clarify, are you arguing that the 11 million acres were ACTUALLY protected in 2021 (making the meme false) or are you saying that he DIDN'T wait, but 2023 is the earliest it could have happened? Because in that case, it would seem like you should've posted something further along the timeline than from Jan 2021 to July 2021.
No, as a counter-claim that the finalization in 2023 was just 'waiting' until the last minute, when the suspensions in 2021 show that the process had been ongoing. Jesus Christ, have you never interacted with the government at all? Do you think it works like a vending machine? Push a button, and get what you want five seconds later?
Why?
Yes, he did step 1 in January 2021. It was resolved in July 2021. What THEN?
I've already admitted that I didn't check WHY it was delayed and just assumed, but you're coming at me like I should have this concrete knowledge that of COURSE it took until September 2023, 'because see, I have proof from July 2021. Case closed.'
You assuming the government is working at its top speed of 'incredibly slow' and my assuming that the government is working at its exact speed of 'wait until you can get votes out of it' are neither proven nor disproven by the article you linked, meaning you're just shouting a data point at me that has no bearing on literally anything. I'm trying to understand why you're shilling so hard for this meme, when it is such a flimsy argument at best.
... it wasn't resolved in July. It was suspended.
Oh, Christ.
Actually the 'It' I was referring to was the fact that Biden passed the Executive Order in January and then the Secretary of Interior passed the Secretary's Order 3401. 'Resolved' may not be the correct terminology, but since you're ignoring 85% of your own argument, it makes sense that you ignore 85% of mine.
Oh, also, those leases that you're hyper-focused on account for less than half a percent of the conserved 10.6 million acres.
So your argument is that because the suspension occurred, the issue was resolved, despite the fact that the suspension was only the first major step in the process.
Jesus Christ.
Okay...
365,000 is ~3.5% of 10.6 million. That failure to fact check even your most basic assertions tracks with your conduct thus far.
I didn't 'hyper-focus' on those leases. I pointed out that the suspension of those leases was the first step in the process. If you can't even be arsed to read the sources, I don't really know what you expect. Me to spoon-feed you?
We're done here.
You've routinely ignored the majority of my posts for insignificant details while ignoring giant glaring issues. 88% of your original argument is just hitting 'undo' from the worst president for the environment in history. (No i didnt fact check because you'll just respond to it instead of the rest of this.)
The meme is bad and I'm sorry if it's OC, because it reads like simping for Biden in a Trumpian way. There's better propaganda.
You could save a ton of typing if you just said you don't like it that Biden refused the corporate land grabs.
Don't cut off your nose to spite your face or whatever they say 😎
My nose was cut off, and this meme is acting like stapling it back on deserves a medal.
God, I hate to see how you interact with your doctors.