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YOU used that as a counter-claim that it was done 2023 because the leases were suspended in 2021.. as a claim for 2023 being a record year? Obviously I'm not pre-researching potential counter-claims to my argument that don't make any sense.
Now, to clarify, are you arguing that the 11 million acres were ACTUALLY protected in 2021 (making the meme false) or are you saying that he DIDN'T wait, but 2023 is the earliest it could have happened? Because in that case, it would seem like you should've posted something further along the timeline than from Jan 2021 to July 2021.
No, as a counter-claim that the finalization in 2023 was just 'waiting' until the last minute, when the suspensions in 2021 show that the process had been ongoing. Jesus Christ, have you never interacted with the government at all? Do you think it works like a vending machine? Push a button, and get what you want five seconds later?
Why?
Yes, he did step 1 in January 2021. It was resolved in July 2021. What THEN?
I've already admitted that I didn't check WHY it was delayed and just assumed, but you're coming at me like I should have this concrete knowledge that of COURSE it took until September 2023, 'because see, I have proof from July 2021. Case closed.'
You assuming the government is working at its top speed of 'incredibly slow' and my assuming that the government is working at its exact speed of 'wait until you can get votes out of it' are neither proven nor disproven by the article you linked, meaning you're just shouting a data point at me that has no bearing on literally anything. I'm trying to understand why you're shilling so hard for this meme, when it is such a flimsy argument at best.
... it wasn't resolved in July. It was suspended.
Oh, Christ.
Actually the 'It' I was referring to was the fact that Biden passed the Executive Order in January and then the Secretary of Interior passed the Secretary's Order 3401. 'Resolved' may not be the correct terminology, but since you're ignoring 85% of your own argument, it makes sense that you ignore 85% of mine.
Oh, also, those leases that you're hyper-focused on account for less than half a percent of the conserved 10.6 million acres.
So your argument is that because the suspension occurred, the issue was resolved, despite the fact that the suspension was only the first major step in the process.
Jesus Christ.
Okay...
365,000 is ~3.5% of 10.6 million. That failure to fact check even your most basic assertions tracks with your conduct thus far.
I didn't 'hyper-focus' on those leases. I pointed out that the suspension of those leases was the first step in the process. If you can't even be arsed to read the sources, I don't really know what you expect. Me to spoon-feed you?
We're done here.
You've routinely ignored the majority of my posts for insignificant details while ignoring giant glaring issues. 88% of your original argument is just hitting 'undo' from the worst president for the environment in history. (No i didnt fact check because you'll just respond to it instead of the rest of this.)
The meme is bad and I'm sorry if it's OC, because it reads like simping for Biden in a Trumpian way. There's better propaganda.