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Mandatory "one nation under god" pledge in school classes proves that establishing religion in the US is fine.
Those are literally not mandatory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette
Except when they are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Legal_challenges
"the Pledge of Allegiance does not violate the rights of those who don't believe in God and does not have to be removed from the patriotic message"
"As a matter of historical tradition, the words 'under God' can no more be expunged from the national consciousness than the words 'In God We Trust' from every coin in the land, than the words 'so help me God' from every presidential oath since 1789, or than the prayer that has opened every congressional session of legislative business since 1787."
I'm not sure what you think those quotes prove. Those quotes say nothing about it being mandatory.
That it's perfectly fine to for the government to promote Christian religion, i.e. what the submitted story is about.
That would also be false: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_deism
Now, will you admit you were incorrect about the pledge of allegiance being mandatory in schools?
Nah, that's a bullshit excuse for religious indoctrination.
No. If the pledge must be taught in school and some individual students can opt out of repeating that indoctrination, doesn't mean that the pledge itself is not mandatory subject in school. I did not write that all students must recite it.
All your "ceremonial deism" reference proves is that there is a giant loophole for the federal government to indoctrinate on religion and not just state and lower levels.
This is also not a requirement. I'm just going to stop talking to you. Virtually everything you have said so far has not been true and you won't even acknowledge any of it.
Some of the incorrect information that I corrected were common misconceptions, so I felt like it was worth doing it for others for a while.
Good, then I won't have to deal with notifications that some forms of religious indoctrination are just secular ceremony.