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President Joe Biden and his administration have been accused of being complicit in enabling a famine in Gaza by failing to sufficiently act on repeated warnings from their own experts and aid agencies.

The former officials say the US also provided diplomatic cover for Israel to create the conditions for famine by blocking international efforts to bring about a ceasefire or alleviate the crisis, making the delivery of aid almost impossible.

“This is not just turning a blind eye to the man-made starvation of an entire population, it is direct complicity,” former State Department official Josh Paul, who resigned over US support for the war, told The Independent.

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[–] Ensign_Crab -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ah now see, this is what I’m talking about. Rather than look at the story, maybe double check, recognize that there are levels and nuances that while don’t excuse anything, they at least provide some reason

I did. You're lying and pretending that Biden's hands are tied, and I explained how they very much are not.

“Genocide lovers”? Really.

Just shut up. Fuck

You and people just like you, Genocide lovers all. I no longer care. Every single one and I’m calling you out.

If you want to ignore my words and call me a Trump supporter, which you have straight up done in this thread, I don't see why anything you say should carry any weight at all either.

Your support for genocide is ALL you are.

[–] Xanis 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you don't want to be called out, stop arguing in bad faith and begin listening more. I'm not going to back down. Gaza is shit and Trump and his allies have been on record more than once promising to also do terrible things. We either stop Trump and continue working, or let him back into Office and have more to worry about than Ukraine and Gaza.

I tried letting my anger out. I tried being reasonable. I tried emotionally connecting and pleading. The reality is extremely simple:

The Genocide should be stopped.

Trump and the GOP should be stopped.

Not voting for Biden is helping Trump and the GOP.

There is no making assumptions here. There is no stretching the truth. Either you recognize the importance of this stance you are determined to hold, which is the Gaza Genocide to the absolute obliteration of all reason, even that which agrees with you, or by opposing Biden's reelection, BECAUSE of the situation we are in, you support Trump.

I've already agreed with you that the Genocide is terrible. I've said Biden needs to do more. I am also saying that we cannot support the ending of the situation in Gaza while also ignoring the situation in within the U.S. This election will affect the world, most of our elections do. The big difference this time is the World remembers how it was when Trump was President last time and they do not want him to be in that position again. Just like they also don't support the Genocide in Gaza.

It's both. Not one. I have laid it out. So get angry all you want, I don't give a shit. My stance is clear:

The Genocide needs to end. Biden must do more to end any support or the situation completely. Trump and the GOP must not gain the Office of the President of the United States.

Pretty simple if you peel off your angry eyebrows for a minute. Or do you want to continue calling me names?

[–] Ensign_Crab -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Not voting for Biden is helping Trump and the GOP.

There is no making assumptions here.

Yes, there fucking is. I'm voting for Biden. You assumed I support Trump because and only because I don't love genocide like you and every other centrist always has and always will.

I’ve already agreed with you that the Genocide is terrible.

And I agreed with you that Trump is worse than Biden. You responded by calling me a trumpist.

The Genocide needs to end. Biden must do more to end any support or the situation completely. Trump and the GOP must not gain the Office of the President of the United States.

This is my position, which I openly stated, and you replied by calling me a fucking trumpist. If you don't like it when people ignore your words and make up abhorrent positions to ascribe to you, good. Tell your genocide supporting buddies what that's like.

[–] Xanis 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Still calling us "genocide lovers", even after my explanation. Bah. No good faith. Just rudeness and labels. Whatever, man. If you want to act like a MAGA Cult member by attempting to incite anger through the usage of extreme abrasiveness and offensive labeling do your thing. We're on the same page, even if you are a jackass about it.

[–] Ensign_Crab -2 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't be doing it if you hadn't responded to me agreeing with you by calling me a trumpist.

I was responding in kind. I was doing exactly what you did, directly quoting you in one case.

You don't like it very much, do you?