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I have no bone in this infighting, nor am I interested in Nix per se (to me, it's one of those computing fads like Rust or Emacs that flare up once in a while then subside, either by becoming mainstream or irrelevant). But the fact that the resident fascists at lobste.rs reacted to this letter in strong terms tells me it's by the good guys.
(one commentator mentioned
These categories being white-male-cis-straight-libertarian-American.
)
Never heard of it. is this a hackernews for chuds?
it's largely a bit more indie/non-VC-hypebros than HN, but it also has a standing problem of some fash presence that it hasn't quite yet accepted it needs to deal with
it deals with it occasionally, but the best i can say is they haven't gone full dang yet
Lobste.rs is an offshoot of HN, started mainly because HN accepts a lot of stuff that's not computing. So it's laser-focussed on that, but of course, open source governance drama is on-topic.
People have been banned for being both regular assholes and bigots - one of the features is an open modlog:
https://lobste.rs/moderations?moderator=%28All%29&what%5Busers%5D=users
But of course part of the memetic evolution is that fascists have become very good at being acceptable community members, by never giving the mods enough rope to hang them with.
Here's the discussion, btw. I've been a long-term member so I "know" where some people stand. See if you can detect them!
https://lobste.rs/s/0qvtim/open_letter_nixos_foundation
edit I can extend invites to those who wish one, but I'll do basic vetting first.
my biggest gripe with lobsters is that the mods pretend that software development happens in vacuum and is done by spherical avatars of an idea of a programmer, so any social issues should never be mentioned aloud or – worse yet – discussed.
Yeah, I thought the cake was quite sneerworthy. "I’m struggling to think of any organizations that I would refuse to accept money or contributions from out of principle," they say. I also rolled my eyes at the sock. "In my observations over the last few months," says a person who I'm relatively sure doesn't participate in FLOSS at all, let alone Nix/nixpkgs.
On a happier note, some folks revealed themselves as decent people, and I'm marking them too. It's good to know that some neighbors are respectable.
Those are the same pictures.