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submitted 7 months ago by Linkerbaan to c/politicalmemes

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[–] givesomefucks 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

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Did Black people get given a country?

LGBT people?

Roma?

The actual communists?

Like, your acting like them not only being gifted a country, but one that's their "holy land" is a bad thing.

Please explain for the class why that's a negative for them.

And why are you acting like they were forced to move to Israel?

There's just a lot wrong in your comment for it only being two sentences

[–] Altofaltception 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Nazis wanted to settle Jews in Madagascar. The British did the same, only in Palestine.

[–] givesomefucks 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

And the English castrated a gay man they wouldn't have won the war without...

The harassment and shame lead him to kill himself, and it took 60 years for the Brits to admit they didn't handle it well...

Alan Turing, a British code-breaker during World War II who was later subjected to chemical castration for homosexual activity, has received a royal pardon nearly 60 years after he committed suicide.

Turing was best known for developing the Bombe, a code-breaking machine that deciphered messages encoded by German machines. His work is considered by many to have saved thousands of lives and helped change the course of the war.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/12/24/world/europe/alan-turing-royal-pardon/index.html

So again, why is getting their own country exactly where they wanted not worse than what literally every other group who was targeted by the nazis got after WW2?

[–] Altofaltception 5 points 7 months ago

I don't disagree.

The reason them being gifted a country that they wanted is a bad thing because of the effect it's had on the native population in the area.

There's an argument that people make that Jews were indigenous to the area. That is probably true, but so are the Palestinian people. Depending on how you look at it, the ancestors of the Palestinians may have actually pre-dated those of the Jewish people in the area. However, what's even more relevant is that the Jewish people who returned to create the modern state of Israel had not lived in the area for over 1000 years.

[–] Linkerbaan 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The order here is different.

Zionists invaded Palestine before Hitler. In fact Zionists tried to work with Hitler to take over Palestine.

The Zionist movement was very active for quite a while before WW2. WW2 was just the moment they benefited from maximum fearmongering and were able to capitalize on the "we need a Nazi ethnostate to defend ourselves" propaganda.

Zionism was very conveniently timed tool for the Brits to get rid of many Jews left after WW2. If all the gays were trying to flee to an African nation the Brits would had likely accomodated too.