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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The point is, it's cherry-picking

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You have so much to learn about people who feed into the Satanic panic. Cherry picking is by definition how they get there. One of Alex Jones biggest boggiemen for years was a subsection of a law that allowed medical testing on troops, and he always ignores the very next section that states that it all requires informed consent. Then lies and act like people would have no idea.

During covid he found an exercise that tried to assume 4 different future scenarios that may come into play, and ignored the positive leaning ones or nuetralish ones and went straight for the heavily authoritarian exercise because it used a possible pandemic as a background setting, then claimed it was all planned out and proof Covid was a bioweapon attack.

People like this willfully ignore things that give context, and will often repackage it without the context anytime they can.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So "sacrifice child" is a common term used in what language? I don't believe in religion but I also don't know a whole lot about computer science. So I would believe you if you said it meant something.

But seeing the words "sacrifice child" would rightfully startle anybody. It's nothing to do with cherry picking or satanic panic. It's everything to do with those two very specific words being right next to each other. Nothing else.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Part of the whole panic and cherry picking thing is also an important next step: refusal to do proper research. A simple web search would correctly show you that it's harmless. One might also find sources that claim it's actually satanic, but they'd find those in blogs, social media, or message boards, while legitimate and official sites would show the correct info.

It's up to the person to determine which one is correct. Most logical people would go with the simplest and least sensational definition being the correct one, while those with a conspiratorial mind view would ignore such common sense and choose to panic.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's still very jarring. Attributing it solely to satanic panic is wild though. It's just someone's first reaction to seeing something. Not everyone does research before having a natural human reaction.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, we don't really care about a natural emotion reaction in yout head. Once you start spreading it around and claiming something about it, then its a problem. If you just spread it as a "look at this weird thing I found, isn't it funny?" That's also fine. However, if you start spreading it like "can you believe this?" without checking into it, then you're either gullible to the point of the internet being dangerous for you, or you're complicit.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Everybody doesn't have to be an expert on a subject to say "look at this, it's crazy right?". It's up to experts to explain why it's not actually crazy. It's still crazy the term has to be "sacrifice child", whether it's common or not

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When you aren't an expert, then you try to find answers by looking it up, as I explained. It isn't hard, and this one in particular is a common joke. On some subjects a simple search won't work as well, I'll grant you that. However you seemed hellbent on defending people jumping to conclusions without som3 due diligence. That's on the person. Misinformation spreads because lazy people want to go off of gut reactions and not even make sure the stuff they spread is true or a misunderstanding.

Why are you so invested in not even trying to fact check? Apologies if that isn't your point, because it sure feels like it.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not my point. No need to apologize though. I just think a lady online being startled by those words and posting about it saying "have you seen this?" is not at all the same as satanic panic. Who knows maybe that's exactly what she was doing but I doubt it. It was probably just a startled Mom or Auntie

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, they probably were. I might be a bit more sensitive because I've seen people ruined by simple stuff like this, and algorithms that encorage going further down the shock, anger, and fear pipeline. I'm pretty adamant that people fact check instead of being shocked, as those moms and aunties might become future Ashli Babbitts. That of course could be just me paying more attention to that side of indoctrination, because I worry what harm it could cause.

Still, I was mostly engaging in an discussion that cherry picked stuff is dangerous even if people don't think it is. Plenty of people have been radicalized starting with jokes and minor misunderstandings that never got corrected. I try to at least steer people towards looking into things even occasionally on joke posts. It may be overreacting, but I remember a time where I was dumb enough to accept "Nice guys finish last" as a somewhat true joke.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 4 points 7 months ago

The point was irrelevant.