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New polling data from Pew shows shift in Americans’ opinion since loss of constitutional right to abortion in June 2022

In the two years after the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, leading to abortion bans across many parts of the south and midwest, abortion rights have only grown more popular, new polling from Pew research Center has found.

A majority of Americans has long supported abortion rights. But more than 60% of Americans now believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases – a four percentage-point jump from 2021, the year before Roe fell.

This support transcends numerous demographic divides in US society: most men, women, white people, Black people, Hispanic people and Asian people believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases. It extends to majorities of all age groups and education levels, although 18-to-29-year-olds and people with more education are more likely than other cohorts to believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Even if it's in the Florida Constitution, the #fascist #FLGOP will figure out a way to keep it illegal or punish women for having one.

The USA won't be free until the #GOP is dead along side the Whigs & Know-Nothings in the trash heap of political history.

[–] disguy_ovahea 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That’s not how the law works. The Florida Supreme Court is the highest court in the state. They allowed the ban under the provision that constitutional enshrinement is put to a vote. The results of that vote in November will determine abortion rights for the state of Florida.

I agree with the rest of your sentiment. The only thing that will kill the GOP in its current state is lack of power. That would require people to band together and consistently vote Democrat, whether they like the candidate or not. That would force Republicans to adopt more liberal/libertarian policies in order to capture more of the vote.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Florida Republicans already have hinted to a new Fetal Personhood bill if the abortion amendment passes to upend the election results.

They have experience doing this. They have other sets of bills to dilute the marihuana amendment too.

[–] disguy_ovahea 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It would have to get passed by the Florida Supreme Court.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Does that really sound like a big hurdle? Or more like... Stepping over a small twig?

Edit: to be clear here, they are selected by a commission that the governor creates, which makes a recommendation list to the governor to select from. Of the 7 justices, 5 of them became justices during Desantis' time as governor.

[–] disguy_ovahea 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They’re the ones that left it up to an election by determining it should be a decision of the people. Walking back on that is now tougher than changing court decided legislation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So not tough at all, considering recent complete 180's on precedence based on whether it suits their agenda.

Sounds about right.

It's hard to believe the Fl supreme Court has any ethics. Considering what they've pushed through with education, diversity training, etc., etc.

The 5 that came in through DeSantis are all heavily conservative. One of whom is married to a representative who wrote the bill for the 6 week ban, and refused to recuse himself. Not to mention having put forth his own anti-choice bans (mostly nonsensical partial birth abortion bans, which isn't a thing) in the 90's.

Another one has a husband elected to the oversight board for Disney.

I really think you're overestimating their ethics and underestimating the lengths they will go.

Edit: autocorrect typo, refuse/recuse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What is the penalty of a Supreme Court directly overruling precedent?

Answer: there isn't one

[–] Encom 6 points 6 months ago

Ohio is trying to do that right now after they enshrined abortion. The OGOP have fought tooth and nail to change the wording of something that has already passed and should already be law (but it’s not cuz…GOP)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The only thing that will kill the GOP in its current state is lack of power. That would require people to band together and consistently vote Democrat, whether they like the candidate or not. That would force Republicans to adopt more liberal/libertarian policies in order to capture more of the vote.

If power is the only thing that influences the GOP (which is true) then why would they acquiesce to election results?

They don't care about the rule of law, except when they can use it as a sword to advance their agenda. So why would outvoting them change anything?

Putin cannot be removed from power in Russia by an election, even if he were to somehow lose an election. This is because Putin has a monopoly on power and will not give that up merely because of election results. Why would we expect the GOP to behave any differently?