ward2k

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[–] ward2k 14 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Defederating won't do jack shit to meta, they can still view your content and view data to their hearts content

All defederating does is stop you within your instance being able to see posts from Threads

The two things Meta likely cares about is content and data, both of which they can still get

[–] ward2k 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly this, the only real reason that Meta would care about the rest of the Fediverse is free extra content for their users and extra data to exploit

Defederating doesn't stop either one of these things, content is still viewable (defederating only stops other users on other instances being able to comment, vote etc) and the data is still their for the taking

It feels like half the posts/comments at the moment don't understand the way that defederating works

[–] ward2k 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry misunderstood your comment, yeah Threads/Meta is god awful for collecting data wouldn't want to touch them personally

There definitely is money in it for Meta though, just yesterday there was quite a popular post showing the types of data that is available to both users and instance owners. If one wanted to they could use things such as your upvotes and down votes to build a sort of profile about you, your political affiliations, interests etc

Meta isn't just a problem, ad companies can easily set up an instance to start collecting data from other servers

[–] ward2k 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly if you're using Lemmy all this information is already publicly accessible, any public forum isnt privacy friendly

[–] ward2k 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah absolutely, I think people really need to understand that Meta won't be the last to try to integrate with the Fediverse, as it grows it's unfortunately unstoppable that ad companies (as well as more malicious actors) will start harvesting as much useful user data as they can

People need to be more careful with what they post as even small things like who has upvoted/downvoted a comment is viewable

[–] ward2k 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, users still see content from defederated instances

For example BeeHaw has defederated from lemmy.world however lemmy.world users are still perfectly able to see posts from BeeHaw communities, they just can't interact with them

The point Is if you're wanting to Defedrate from Threads from a privacy perspective you're achieving nothing

If you're defederating/blocking Threads because you don't want to see their content or want their users interacting with you/your instance then fair enough

[–] ward2k 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but defederating only stops us from being able to view posts from Threads, our posts/comments will still be completely accessible to Threadz/Meta

In terms of "protecting" your data from Meta, defederating will achieve nothing

[–] ward2k 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a tonne of comments saying about EEE but people need to be aware that EEE is famous for not being successful

Microsoft themselves who coined the term gave up on the approach after a number of unsuccessful attempts

[–] ward2k 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes at one point they were bundling crypto miners within their releases, I'm not too sure if they still do however there's a lot of trust and reputation within the Piracy community

Also the fact they've done it once makes it very possible for them to do it again (though I've got no idea if they even stopped bundling malware and cryptominers)

1337x demoted them at one point for their shady practices

[–] ward2k 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

EEE famously doesnt work very well, Microsoft who coined the phrase even gave up on it after a number of unsuccessful attempts

I wish people would stop spamming EEE

[–] ward2k 13 points 1 year ago

Sure but Online dropped first for free so people were happy to pick it up on Steam

The campaign release was later and was included within GamePass so people made the switch then, in fact there was a large drop in Steam numbers the month after the release of Campaign likely due to people swapping over to GamePass

I'm not denying a loss in player count across all services, that absolutely has happened (and to a degree is expected to happen no game maintains the peak players) i'm saying that Steam metrics are very poor for tracking Microsoft releases

Sea of thieves has lost around 66% of average players compared to 2020 on Steam despite the fact it actually has a much larger active player count now (Though of course less than the 2021 peak)

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