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And that's fine, the Fediverse gives you tools to not have to deal with that through silencing or defederation.

But for many people on the Fediverse, they're here specifically for other things, and being able to interact with the corporate social web from outside of it is ideal for them.

Note that I'm not arguing for or against here, it's just very easy to see why many aren't interested in defederating.

It's not that complicated.

Threads is another instance that brings people to the Fediverse, and people like the idea that they can stay on their instances while still interacting with the world at large. For many people, having everyone on the Fediverse is the goal, and in fact, is a long-term goal of most of the platforms - the "Fediverse" is not meant to be a sort of closed community only for marginalised people to get away from the corporate web, it's for everyone to use in whatever way they see fit.

There is literally nothing more to discuss if you're wondering why people "defend" Threads.

Ultimately, it's because the concerns of privacy are simply too far removed from people, or they trust certain entities more than others.

For example, if your next door neighbour knows all your browsing history, people would be bothered, but people are not bothered if Google knows as it feels they would have no direct effect on their life, whereas your next door neighbour might.

This can be easily seen in the whole discussion regarding privacy on Mastodon.

A lot of people refuse to use Mastodon over Twitter, because "Mastodon admins can see my DMs", even though Twitter absolutely could as well (Twitter apparently has encrypted DMs since May 2023 though). The reason for this is they see a Mastodon admin as someone who could potentially have an effect on their digital life, whereas they trust Twitter not to do anything with the data since they're a big corporation who has nothing to do with their personal life.

Unless it is an effect they can directly observe (or imagine to occur), people simply don't care. This applies to almost all discussions around the big picture, such as things like climate change or unions, or whatever.

Whether we like it or not, people absolutely trust corporations.

Must be a g@mer to cry fake news at this photograph Mr. Romald took while he was shopping!! How can you defend these unchristian displays???

Just MORE proof video g@mes stray people from Jesus, I will pray for you to see Jesus' Light. 🙏

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Because they use ActivityPub, both of them can potentially interact with each other (post, viewing, following, liking, boosting, etc). There's no way to stop Threads from being able to interact fully with Lemmy if it's something Meta wanted to implement. Mastodon can already interact with Lemmy directly by following communities, posting to communities, and interact with posts/comments. Lemmy doesn't go the other way though because it isn't implemented, but it could be.

Any ActivityPub software/platform/website can interact with any other ActivityPub software/platform/website if it so wants to, because the backend of things like posts/comments/communities/etc are the same across every single platform if they choose to implement them, the difference between the ActivityPub platforms is how they choose to show you information and how you interact with it.

Edit: Made a few edits for clarification.

What is this "sad tire" thing that people keep talking about in our Facebook Group???

This must be the g*mer brain disease!! I will pray for them 🙏 Christ is always with them

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It's not quite that simple, as common pain points such as Bluetooth and WiFi also work out of the box. For the vast majority of users, they don't really go beyond things like bluetooth, wifi, and dual monitor, all which work fine.

"Against" isn't really the right word, as you don't really compete on the fediverse.

All the platforms on the fediverse work together by design, the introduction of more micro blogs is good for Mastodon and the rest; there's already so many of them and you can talk to them through Mastodon, which is the way it should be.

Couldn't really tell you as I haven't used either, I just use Debian on my home PC with a simple set up and it all just works. I don't use things like split tunnelling or anything though.

The simplicity and stability of Debian is great, while it has "old software", you can get the latest through Flatpak.

It's weird to see so many people in the comments talking about how they switch to Linux and supposedly have so many issues.

Did they do it 10 years ago or something? Just install something like Debian 12 (ideally with KDE if you're primarily a Windows user), and everything works. Recommended to install Flatpak as well, which can be done super easily depending on your distro, but in KDE it's just inside the "app store" (Discover).

Right? I always find it weird people want SteamOS, from my experience, all distros are "gaming distros", just install your drivers if not already installed, then install the game through something like Lutris, Heroic, or Steam.

I play on Debian 12 (used to be 11) exclusively through Lutris/Native, and it works flawlessly.

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