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Yes, the pilot was on only when the light was off.

Not sure if I'm understanding correctly what does it mean that if 0 and 1 are always live simultaneously, but leaving plugged 0 to the live wire and testing at 1 with a live wire tester won't lit it - I left the live wire plugged to 0 and the light wire to 1 and the switch works, i.e. I can turn the light on and off, but the pilot won't work in either case (nor when the light is on nor when it is off).

I'm in Colombia, this is the switch as they sell it here (they changed the middle switch in it to an empty plate to use it in another house and left me with the other two)

Can't find any clue about what the little m means, but in the diagram it's placed next to an interrupted connection between 0 an 3 (not like between 0 and 1, where the line is continuous) so maybe you're right and 3 would be for the pilot. Still I won't know why it won't work

Thank you, I appreciate your help

Thank you, I just tried that configuration again - live wire on 0 and 3, and light on 1 - (and viceversa, live on 0 and 1 and light on 3 - wires are really hard to get out of this switches!) but no dice, the pilot won't ever turn on. Even tried with the other switch from the same socket but still it won't work. I'm just giving up. Thank you regardless

I mean, that's great, no? You don't have to use an account and on top of that you don't get that ai bs.

It sort of looks like if Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy were going to pop out from that thing

What is stopping someone; say the FSF or some other group championing libre software from coming up with their own web engine completely different from the incumbent engines?

Seems you're not aware of stuff like Servo, which some said was supposed to be the replacement of Gecko, and it's being written in Rust. But Mozilla ditched it and gave it to the Linux Foundation where its development is reeeaaally sloooooooow.

Afaik The Linux Foundation gives next-to-nothing, if not nothing, to its development. But despite of all of that it seems it has increased its pace (compared to the time it was just given to TLF) and has got donations and stuff.

But a browser engine is an absurdly huge piece of software and it will be a miracle if projects like Rust (or Ladybird, which I just learned it's targeting its first alpha for... 2026!) get backed by big corporations and their pace gets quicker.

Call me stupid or whatever (seeing the Reddit toxicity that has got into Lemmy I'd be surprised if this has no downvotes!) but I do think Servo has the potential to be a serious contender to the hegemony of Chrome/Chromium in the long haul. The Linux Foundation seems to have enough resources to propel its development and reach that goal, but they just choose not to nor seem to care at all. So yes, unless a miracle happens we normies can only choose between Chrome/Chromium, Firefox or something Webkit. Maybe even going absolutely radical and using Konqueror with its KHTML engine, if you can.

I absolutely agree but I think discuss.kde.org is the best place to, ahem, discuss this issue - more people over there and more chances devs can hear you (and personally I havent' had good experiences with the mods of this community). Maybe even going straight to a bug report because yes, that's a serious UX issue that at least for me has flown over my head if it weren't for you noticing it and talking about it.

Lol what? As the other comment says, partitioning disks for Gentoo is exactly the same thing as partitioning disks for Arch. If the problem is a PEBKAC thing you can't just blame the distro.

The alleged "difficulty" of installing Gentoo is just about reading docs and waiting for it to compile stuff, it's no rocket science as you people are trying to FUD.

I mean, that you couldn't get past drive partitioning doesn't make it difficult to install for everyone.

Of course not - if Xfce has too few people working on it, MATE has even less than them, and Enlightenment has even less than MATE. And note that Enlightenment is not only the desktop environment per se but the E libraries (and those are no regurgitated shit - for example, some car makers have used them on their infotainment systems). I'd think it'd be amazing if those two (or those three) could do a Dragon-ball-z kind of fusion, I think those three have really similar goals. Hell, if that was actually a thing most probably I'd move to that.

I know Xfce folks have submitted patches to GTK over the years, but it's just that GNOME's enshittification has pregnated GTK to a point of no return and Xfce devs are very well aware of that (for example, the libadwaita thing).

Exactly this. As OP I'd wish there was a serious FOSS alternative to it but (1) it seems highly improbable such alternative will have a nice Garmin/Wahoo integration, the latter which I happen to use; (2) niceties like when you share an activity you can choose to put a picture you took on your ride as its background; (3) being able to use it on desktop and mobile, without having to set up a self-hosted instance or something (I don't happen to have a PC working on 24/7 at home!); (4) and maybe this one is just me, but have been using Strava for 11+ years (just checked out, 1007 activities) and I don't know if there is something that lets you export all of your data from it to be used flawlessly with another app.

I'm happy with KDE since 2009. But I'd have a really hard time if I were to choose between those two.

I think I "know" MATE because before KDE I used to use Gnome2 so it feels nostalgic to me. The Applications/Places/System menu was the tits and it beat the shit of whatever start menu you put in front of it, and Gnome's decision to get rid of it was the stupidest idea ever (among many other of their utterly stupid decisions). I'd really miss that menu if it weren't for that I got used to associate some keystrokes to launch my favorite apps so I don't even use a start menu or whatever, rather than Krunner.

On the con side it seems to me MATE is being developed at a slower pace than Xfce's, and it seems less customizable than it - well, at least for me that's a con - thought I'm not really a "ricer" or anything I just got used to a certain way to do things on the desktop and I remember having to fiddle with Gconf2 to do stuff like you did with friggin' Windows Registry editor.

I got to use Xfce back in the day too. It has an Applications/Places menu just so people wouldn't think they blatantly copied Gnome, but it's more than 10 years since Gnome got rid of it so I don't know why they haven't took it. Xfce feels somewhat more customizable, has the veteran badge and seems to have more developers backing it up.

But it's being developed with GTK+3/4 so I guess at some point they'll suffer from the ~~shittification~~Gnome-ization of GTK and, as I said before in some other post, if I were them I'd move all my shit to the E libraries (even more, I'd do a fusion of the Enlightenment desktop and Xfce). Also I happen to be a graphic designer so the lack of care they have onto some things sticks like a sore thumb to me, like those poorly designed settings dialogs on some stuff that even have some dumb horizontal scrolling just because they couldn't care less about that.

Not knowing how anything works

I mean, that's how you start learning stuff - not knowing how something works

Being scared by errors that you don't know how to get around or deal with

Isn't that the case for every OS in existence? When something breaks, you don't know how to deal with it. Enter google/ddg/whatever

Not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly

See point 1 - and yet there are Linux apps that let you do things quicker than Windows stuff. I can't imagine myself at this point having to use frigging photoshop to crop or add a border to a image when you could do that with a ´magick -crop´

Wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?

Wasn't that the whole point of live images? Not that they will charge you for downloading them. And hardware support is infinitely better today than back in the day. Just look at what the folks at asahi did - that's nothing short of incredible