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I'm ... Super confused. I'm claiming Alex Jones is a white supremacist. You claimed Joe never had supremacist on his podcast. I said he had Jones on, therefore he has.

I never said Joe was a white supremacist. Where did I say that?

Well, no, my grandmother had conspiratorial thought, and once she passed, while Jones wasn't super popular (or influential) and at the time he was amusing and harmless, he made me nostalgically think of her. So I kept it on in the back ground. As I became an adult I shifted to less time consuming way to interact with his content as I questioned the ethics of watching his content directly. Dood was a fun crazy back in the day. Now, yikes.

As a Floridian, I have seen straight up swastika tattoos and SS lightning bolts on necks. The white supremacist movement did adopt Nazi iconography a few decades ago. They aren't literally nazis, but are people who are pushing Ur-giest adjacent philosophy alongside the same sources and arguments. And -- no -- I don't see them around every corner because they're in the super minority, but thoughts like Great-Replacment theory are becoming increasingly mainstream. You're putting thoughts in my head in lieu of making an argument and inventing an "argument", imagine I think that, and are attacking it instead. Where did I claim there were Nazis around every corner? I claimed there exists at least one supremacist and they appeared on Joe's show.

Look, you're shifting away from a fairly straight forward argument the Joe had a white supremacist on his podcast. I gave you a digestible source to discover that claim and cite their sources in a verifiable way. Jones doesn't just dabble in conspiracy, he purposefully has vocal white supremacists on his show regularly, doesn't address it, and pushes his audience to their spaces while dog-whistling white supremacist arguments. See Feuntes appearing on his show. I know this because I watched his show for years

I didn't say I listened to Joe Rogan for hours — I said I listened to Alex Jones for a considerable amount of time. I only gave a counter example to show that Joe Rogan does, in fact, platform Nazis. To do that I only need to show one example where he does. And it's one white supremacist I'm familiar with.

To my knowledge, being a nut-job doesn't preclude somone from being a white supremacist. If they're propagandizing white supremacists talking points to a large audience, even if "mad", they're still a fucking white supremacist. Honestly, the cogent ones are more scary. But, If they're talking about the 'fall of the western civilization', the threat of the 'globalists', or aping rhetoric from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion: they're a white supremacist. Which Alex spins into current events around a narrative to have people believe the world is ending in a month or so just in time before the lovely ad pivot. Again, it's not something he'll directly say, but its something that gets picked up over time after listening to him for way too long. A through line, of sorts, as he dons and shifts positions, or the conspiracy 'flavor of the week,' as he picks up whatever narrative he finds helpful so he can continue to doomsay.

I will say Jones has some sort of illness, but I don't know the exactly where it ends and his act that enriched him begins. For example, 2008-2012 era Jones hits differently than 2016 onward.

I'd be more than happy to pick out audio clips where he does precisely this, if you want. However that will take me a bit cause I don't have a perfect recollection of all the vile shit he's said. There's always the Knowledge Fight podcast, where they debunk the idiot, but that's your call. They, weirdly enough, were expert witnesses at Jone's Sandyhook civil trial.

Edit: A good day Knowledge Fight covers of Alex's show is episode 796: February 4, 2004. Start at 11:07 to avoid the podcaster bloat. It's a case where everyone who is a guest just so happens to be Nazis. Of course, there are many of other days like this, of course.

Alex Jones is a white supremacist. He has had Jones on the podcasts, ergo platforming him. Therefore "Rogan platforms Nazis" is, pretty much, a true statement.

And no, I'm not programmed to dislike Jones, I've come to that opinion after listening to his unedited show for years. He uses the terminology, rhetoric, and arguments found in white supremacy talking points. Jones isn't going to out right say "I'm a Nazi" or etc. (unlike Kayne -- who he suspiciously didn't boot immediately alongside Nick Fuentes when they explicitly say that), because it's the third rail you can't touch and be a propagandist for the masses. Which is his aim.

Right, but the hypothetical person this person is talking to fires back with "that Nordic country doesn't count cause that's socialism"

I'm a Florida native so I've had this conversation with someone, and they're implying the reason why burgers aren't $20 is because of some weird centralized control of prices while also conflating social programs with socialism (and not the economic system)

Been looking forward to this :)

I want to see how the M1 version fairs on my tiny laptop. Obviously it won't be as good as my gaming machine, but finally: a Metal title I'm interested in that can push the hardware!

The M1 Mac book is my daily over Linux now. It's a wonderful machine, it's only concession is gaming can be a pain/not worth it. I like the "hobby" of it, but I know it's not for every one.

Am vaper. I agree.Wouldn't dream to obscure someone's viewing of a show -- much less while inside of a venue.

I prefer it to stoges, but even the 'analogue' of the habit was relegated to keeping us away from others. As it should be.

I haven't come across them and I usually browse ALL. Is this a product of what lemmy.world defeded?

And nobody bothers 😔

I suppose it is neither a taco or a sand which, however it lives within the sandwich family. What's weird is if we take the inner radius as it runs towards zero it would look no different to a sandwich (save the weirdly thick bread that looks similar to a burger), but it would be topologically different shape.

I suppose it depends on if you consider a bagle split more naturally a sandwich or not, and, if so, then it matters if the if the space of the filling being connected matters or not.

HOW DO YOU DO FACES SO WELL?!

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