cleanprairiedog

I hear you. Chickens can feel pain want to live. That's why I give them moral consideration.

Am I understanding correctly that you mean you believe exploiting animals for their bodies is morally wrong? I think your assertion is correct. I'd rather let chickens live or not be bred into a lifetime of suffering even if I'm the odd man out. Sometimes society is wrong in the way they approach moral issues, human treatment of animals being one of them. This documentary really opened my eyes, it's called Dominion https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko

there’s one argument here: freedom over your own body.

Animals should have freedom over their bodies too. It's hypocritical to be pro-choice, but then force cows to have arms shoved up their anus to be artificially inseminated for dairy products by buying their secretions. It's hypocritical to think you deserve total control over an animal's body for taste pleasure. Be vegan.

There are 80 billion land animals killed for trivial, unnecessary reasons every year. Stop breastfeeding off of another species in adulthood and paying for chicks to be thrown in blenders. That's fucking weird.

Wouldn't a being that felt pain or any other feeling automatically know they exist?

Humans are animals. Why doesn't it make sense to protect the rights of beings that can feel and know they exist over biological material that can't feel or know it exists?

I saw this German documentary about the egg industry.

They ship the males out of country where they are raised in sheds, then sold to Africa.

I think the best solution is to not buy eggs. A good replacement is mung bean flour. It has similar nutrition and flavor, can be obtained cheaply, and spares chickens from being exploited by humans.

The vast majority of aborted fetuses are not sentient. Sentience is the ability to know oneself exists through feeling. Yet in the US, there are laws protecting insensate biological material but not sentient male chicks ground up alive in the egg industry. I see the moral value of a day old chick as far more than a 14 week fetus since the male chick has sentience and can feel pain while a 14 week old fetus cannot.

Ideally, these male chicks could be taken to an animal sanctuaries. With the scale of the industry and the rarity of farmed animal sanctuaries, it wouldn't be possible for all of them. For the ones that can be rescued, life on a sanctuary is much better than in the wild or on a farm in a dark shed.

It's very sad. Because pieces of sh*t want to wear fur, they are tortured like that. Plus there is synthetic fur that looks exactly like the stolen skins of trapped animals. But no, ultra rich scum want to torture animals for a status symbol. I wish all foxes could be freed from their cages.

Thank you :)

They source animal products from farms that use gestation crates and battery cages. Gestation crates and battery cages make the lives of animals significantly worse.

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