cerevant

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[–] cerevant 36 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Nature knows how to solve this problem.

[–] cerevant 0 points 1 year ago

I suppose it could still be done as a read-only display of content ...

If the content is hyperlinks / torrent links to copyrighted content, then even a read-only copy is illegal. Lemmy (by virtue of ActivityPub) isn't designed to access stuff remotely - the closest it could probably come would be to have links to the posts on the remote community, though adding a level of indirection is probably not enough to become legal.

If you want to do illegal stuff on the internet, you need to use services that are hosted where it isn't illegal. People yelling about freedom doesn't change the fact that admins aren't willing to go to jail for your warez.

[–] cerevant 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You are allowed to discuss piracy. You aren’t allowed to facilitate piracy (I.e. providing links to pirated content). It is illegal in the country where this instance is hosted.

[–] cerevant 7 points 1 year ago

This isn’t about the values or opinions of the admins, this is about legal exposure. Users don’t get a vote in the risks admins are willing to take.

[–] cerevant 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a place for something in between de-federated and federated?

That's what blocking a community is - if the instance does not allow anyone to subscribe to a community, the content from that community will not be mirrored locally.

Is there not some kind of 'gray-list' that would allow risky content to stay accessible through home instances but behave more as a direct link

The indirect approach you describe isn't compatible with the underlying ActivityPub protocol. My understanding is that all communities are effectively local, even when their home is on a different instance. Federation just allows modification of the "local" content by another instance.

(That is not to say that [email protected] is the same community as [email protected], rather that the two communities are accessed in the same way by the UI)

[–] cerevant 5 points 1 year ago

Defederating cuts off the whole instance. They just blocked those three piracy communities as far as I understand.

[–] cerevant 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Remember that lemmy.world has to keep a copy of whatever content appears in a federated community on their servers, making them legally liable for the content. At least they just blocked the community instead of defederating.

[–] cerevant 3 points 1 year ago

A strength and a weakness. The strength, as you say, is being able to move to a different instance. However, the weakness is that Lemmy (the software) requires each instance to keep a copy of every federated post for its users to interact with. This means they have to host (and be legally liable for) data that they can't police beyond blocking the community / instance.

[–] cerevant 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is the solution. Communities need to congregate on smaller, like-minded instances. It makes sense to concentrate users on large instances, but communities should be spread out.

[–] cerevant 4 points 1 year ago

Not really - it isn’t prediction, it is early detection. Interpretive AI (finding and interpreting patterns) is way ahead of generative AI.

[–] cerevant 2 points 1 year ago

T&C / license agreements need to have standardized, government approved language that can have a nutrition label type summary. This would not only be good for consumers, but good for businesses- Business seem to blunder into these PR fiascos when their lawyers go overboard with the CYA language.

[–] cerevant 1 points 1 year ago

We just got the bot promoted to mod, so the timing is off - this happened because the bot got started late. It isn't smart enough to not post the Tailgate thread if the game thread is up. Won't be an issue in the future.

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Fed test 8/11 (self.philly_test)
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NFL Bot testing 8/10 (self.redball)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by cerevant to c/[email protected]
 

Hello all! I'm (@[email protected]) currently working on the port of the NFL bot. I've done a quick conversion, but it is a bit tricky to fully test before a game goes live, so we'll give it a go for today's preseason game between the Texans and the Patriots.

You can follow along with the posts in this community. If you notice any problems, please leave a comment here.

[Edit: lemmy.world is not federating properly right now, so you'll need to access that community from another instance.]

If you are feeling daring and want to run this yourself, you can grab a copy of the lemmy-nfl branch from the Git repo linked in the sidebar.

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[Meta] Bot updates (self.phillies)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by cerevant to c/phillies
 

Hello all!

Just a couple of updates from the bot front:

First, I finally got the game update comments working, and put in a more robust sticky post manager, so we won’t have 3 day old sticky posts. As always, let me know if you see something go wonky.

I’ve reconfigured the bot to go ahead and post the Game Thread when the Game Day Thread normally went up. It contains the same content, and we don’t have enough conversation to warrant two threads.

I’m thinking about doing something similar for the Postgame Thread - basically just keeping the Game thread and changing its title to reflect the outcome. I hesitate to do this because the Postgame thread gets the most upvotes, and if I just modify the title of the game thread, I don’t think it will pop up in your feed when the game is over. Let me know if you have any thoughts on this.

My next big project is to get the bot working for Eagles games. I’m a bit busy IRL right now, so I don’t know if I’ll get to it before preseason starts.

Go Phils!

edit: Oh, and I forgot to do this earlier - starting tomorrow, you should see the wild card standings and scoreboard in the Game Thread!

 

This is particularly infuriating:

I’m editing a (often lengthy), and I’ll switch to the browser to look something up or get a link to something I want to reference. When I return to the app, it does a force reload and returns to the home feed, losing not only my place, but the content of what I typed.

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Bot restrictions? (self.support)
submitted 1 year ago by cerevant to c/support
 

Hello!

I was wondering if lemmy.world has any bot restrictions / throttling behavior? I have a bot (ported from reddit) that is performing the same activities on lemmy.world and fanaticus.social, but I'm seeing different behavior: on LW posts aren't being featured correctly and comments aren't being added. I'm not seeing any significant configuration differences, and they are running the same code - Is there a server side explanation for this?

If you have any other suggestions for good bot lemmetiquette, I'd definitely like to hear them!

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Text Crosspost (self.philly_test)
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1244483

Testing crosspost of text post.

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Text Crosspost (self.philly_test)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by cerevant to c/philly_test
 

Testing crosspost of text post. What happens if I edit the text?

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