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OpenAI says it could ‘cease operating’ in the EU if it can’t comply with future regulation in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@chemical_cutthroat
Again, all of your analogical effort presumes that an LLM is synthesizing. When I say, specifically, they generate outputs based on statistical probability it's not at all the same as a sentient process of reiterative learning based on their available knowledge.

If you can't get that distinction, then all the effort to respond to you will expect too much from me (personally; I wish the best to others who'd like). If you're really sincere though, honestly it's been best elaborated by Timnit Gebru and Emily Bender in their writings about the "stochastic parrot". Please do have a read. https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3442188.3445922
@stopthatgirl7

OpenAI says it could ‘cease operating’ in the EU if it can’t comply with future regulation in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@chemical_cutthroat

If I do a book report based on a book that I picked up from the library, am I violating copyright? If I write a movie review for a newspaper that tells the plot of the film, am I violating copyright?

The first conceptual mistake in this analogy is assuming the LLM entity is "writing". A person or a sentient being writing is still showing signs of intellectual work, which is how the example book report and movie review will not be accused of plagiarism, which is very very basically stealing someone's output but one that is not made legally ownership of (which then brings it to copyright infringement territory).

LLMs are producing text based on statistical probability meaning it is quite literally aping/replicating the aesthetic form of a known genre of textual output, which in these cases are given the legal status of intellectual property. So yes, an LLM-generated textual output that is in the form of a book report or movie review looks the way it does by copying with no creative intent previous works of the genre. It's the same way YouTube video essays get taken down if it's just a collection of movie clips that might sound like a full dialogue. Of course in that example yt clip, if you can argue it's a creative output where an artist is forming a new piece out of a collage of previous media, the rights owner to those movie clips might lose their claim to the said video. You can't make that defence with OpenAI.

@stopthatgirl7

Lemmy instances accounts cannot post to Kbin magazines? in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@revampeduser assuming you've subscribed so that the community is now regularly fetched from/pushed to kbin.social, then it's likely a momentary hiccup with the federation which can be instance-specific

Using my kbin.social account to login into other fediverse apps in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't want to eta, so addition: what is being federated right now is readability and participation - with your kbin account you can absolutely interact with other fedi posts. But on the client-side options for a cross-platform one that can also be useable with a threadi login is still unavailable.

@adonis

Using my kbin.social account to login into other fediverse apps in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@adonis the quickest answer is that the clients you've explored are optimized for a specific fedi software. Pre-reddit meltdown most clients developed were designed for Mastodon and its forks or close cousins whose backend are coherent like Pixelfed. This includes the Mastodon app itself. There are other microblog softwares, like Calckey - they also don't parse the same way so most fedi clients for microblogs can't log you in to your Calckey instance.

With the threadiverse softwares, none of them are rendered the same way as Mastodon, so that's why you can't login with those clients. And with the threadiverse clients, currently what's available are software-specific - jerboa only works with Lemmy for example. Interoperable threadi clients are in heavy development though, if you don't mind waiting. At the moment there is no Kbin-optimized clients.

Sooooo for today, if you have a Masto-flavoured account, it's almost a given any of the popular clients can log you in. Hope that helps!

New kbin user guide (preparation for impending wave of reddit migrants in July) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@CarlsIII aye no worries - fair ask

@Friend

New kbin user guide (preparation for impending wave of reddit migrants in July) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

@CarlsIII try click on More at the original post and select Copy to Fediverse. That'll get you the originating url. This works for every type of post and comment.

@Friend

Lemming, an app for Lemmy for Android, will be in Google Play Beta next week-ish! in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

These Europeans (i noticed pre-2022 Fedi are dominated by them) damn love these PWAs, so practically every Fedi instance you sign up will have a little prompt to ask if you want to install.

Lemming, an app for Lemmy for Android, will be in Google Play Beta next week-ish! in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened is that you probably installed the PWA (progressive web app) which is basically a container for the browser window that's specifically pointed to your Lemmy instance. You can check your actual browser app and see the history, all your Lemmy activities will be there also :)

/c/café daily chat thread for 24 June 2023 in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Idk if they're the pioneer la but there's a mamak that's become quite a tourist spot (used to be a makan hunter spot for years) in KL, near Masjid Jamek, if you want to try other known places :D it's called Mansion Tea Stall, next to the Klang River side.

/c/café daily chat thread for 23 June 2023 in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I totes get that. In my mind I'm thinking of those who did set up accounts, posted like two posts, or nothing but their twitter xposts ... And then balik to Twitterjaya because no spoonfed outrage algos to get them their audience haih. I also waited until one of my forum kaki set up a small instance, and then i stayed. It's not like twitter getting better also. (and maybe i wouldn't have minded if a couple of them didn't make such a big deal about moving until asking me often if I've moved yet, hahahahaha)

/c/café daily chat thread for 24 June 2023 in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For sure for sure. It's just those big instances have to be proactive also but that's definitely a sample of a long term modding headache for sure

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The race to put Indigenous land on the map (restofworld.org)
 

In Borneo, Indigenous communities are using mapping tech to claim their land rights and fight the expansion of oil palm plantations.

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How do kbin instances (and all aggregator protocols) work to maintain privacy and safety? What can we put up on the roadmap (when there is one)? (Instance members at least; ppl posting on fedi in gene (kbin.social)
 

This is going to be kbin focused because that's the infra I'm most familiar with, but if any part of this is relevant to Lemmy and other upcoming aggregators it's worth a think too:

  • in the more microblogging part of fedi, it's been about week and some of active discussions because of the reveal that FBMeta is developing its own Project 92, or Barcelona, a competing service to Twitter (called Threads) that supposedly will be using ActivityPub

  • it's followed up by confirmation that there's been overtures to those running big (in size) instances esp on the Masto protocol to meet (Eugen never confirmed but in deleted posts talked about the idea of a meeting even with NDA positively; Universeodon definitely confirmed taking a meeting. Universeodon admin also runs a threadiverse instance (kbin). No one else, and in fact more confirmed they didn't: Dan who does Pixelfed and runs the Fedi database; Chris who's one of the admins of calckey.social; Jerry who does infosec.exchange and also runs a kbin instance)

  • the big discussion is if then Fedi instances should federate with Threads. There's a Fedipact now of those who won't and will outright block. There's more who's being cautious and have decided on preemptively silencing (so conditional following). There's those who wants to wait and see.

  • I'm bringing this over to the kbin side because of the three concerns: political (extend, embrace, extinguish playbook means standards-setting work will be under threat of an eventual oligopoly); privacy (data scraping and surveillance capitalism is a known thing, legal or otherwise); and infrastructure (the full blast of new Threads accounts and the way AP and esp Masto does JSON will mean the perpetual fetching will overwhelm smaller instances) - the most particular for threadiverse is on technical capacity.

  • most instances are still finding their feet. What measures are already in place short of defed to help admins not get overwhelmed? What measures are being worked on?

  • kbin does scraping posts very well. Even untagged posts end up here on kbin.social because the 'random' magazine was created. What can instances do to not become a risk vector for at-risk persons who probably didn't realize this protocol (that's not even a year old) has been quietly slurping their posts in machine-readable forms all this time?

I've been super enjoying my time here, and if i know where we can collectively stand on this, it will take a load off of my mind.

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El Nino raising risk of Southeast Asia haze crisis this year (theedgemalaysia.com)
 

Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia may face the most severe haze in at least five years due to the likelihood of a strong El Nino that will bring hotter and drier weather, according to a new report.

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Fedi-specific Malaysian/Southeast Asian accounts to share? (kbin.social)
 

Hola, if any of you guys are also dabbling on the microblogging side (such as using your kbin account or actually on a masto build or similar; does Lemmy enable you guys to view blogging accounts as well?), i just wanted to share that a mutual of mine @irfan set up masto bots for soya cincau and lowyat.net:

[email protected]
[email protected]

(@ soyacincau @ mastodon.social
@ lowyat @ mastodon.social in case formatting breaks the link)

You can follow them and see news updates on your timeline.

I also started a SEA kbin mag: @magASEAN (@ magASEAN @ kbin.social) because not yet managed to see any (anglophone) continental southeast asian accounts around.

Do share if you've found anything else! I'm trying to build my TL to be less Western.

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Show Your Stripes - See KL's temperature change since 1869 (showyourstripes.info)
 

Visualising how the climate has changed for every country across the globe

(Reposting here per mod's advice. Btw - on kbin.social (or maybe any kbin instance for now) i didn't see your comment but at least i can see the monyet.cc version (but of course can't respond lah because deleted copy is deleted and on monyet.cc i don't have an account).

There's a few Malaysian cities listed, but none from Borneo :( of the Semenanjung ones, Kg Baru Subang wins for utter randomness (maybe because of old airport? Idk)

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Fediverse Recap, re: Meta's Project 92 (kbin.social)
 

Followup to my earlier share of the anti-Meta Fedipact business. I compiled the links on my personal mag. Sort the comments by Oldest as that's where I'm adding all the stuff.

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🖤 ANTI-META FEDI PACT 🖤 (fedipact.online)
 

I can't even begin to explain this without getting into what fediverse politics has been but i thought this would be of interest to you guys regardless. The TLDR is that Meta's been developing their own ActivityPub project (and with it instances) under P92. And apparently they had a meeting with key figures especially on the microblogging side (so that includes Eugen the Masto guy) - no details provided because got NDA.

If you've been on fediverse to avoid corporate socmed and/or object against surveillance capitalism, naturally this wasn't treated as good news.

(I thought this is the best channel for this but lemme know if i got it wrong)

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KINIGUIDE | How will the Health White Paper affect you? (m.malaysiakini.com)
 

Malaysiakini speaks to public health expert for further insight.

Still trying to wrap my head around this :(

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Human skeleton said to be 14,000 years old found at dam site in Kelantan (www.freemalaysiatoday.com)
 

The skeletal remains were found during rescue archaeological excavations for the Nenggiri hydropower project.

My head goes up:
“Indirectly, it will contribute to the discovery of new facts related to burial practices and the socio-cultural evolution of prehistoric life, especially in Lembah Nenggiri, Kelantan,” the ministry said.

“The discovery of the skeleton in Gua Keledung Kecil is one of the country’s important archaeological heritage finds.

My head goes down:
Tenaga Nasional Berhad will fund a mini gallery near the Nenggiri Dam to house all the finds from Lembah Nenggiri. The gallery will be a tourism destination, the ministry said.

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