ZkhqrD5o

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[–] ZkhqrD5o 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

While I agree with you that my claim was exaggerated, my claim remains true. While the differences you have outlined are correct, the differences for the photographer are basically negligible because it means essentially three things:

  1. Better zooms
  2. Better extreme wide angle optics (< 35 mm)
  3. Yes, better coatings (which have a small impact on image quality, compared to optical design)

Well, before computers, all lenses were calculated using geometric optics, and these lessons are still true. The computer just makes it faster.

And on the topic of coatings, yes, we have gained fluoride element lenses, but what about thorium oxide doted lenses? Yes, you can't use them on digital cameras because the radiation dosage will kill the sensor eventually, but if you have ever seen the image output of a thorium oxide lens, you know what I'm talking about.

Also additionally on the topic of them being bad, alright I'm getting the rare stuff out.

  • Auto Rikenon 55/1.4
  • Zeiss Distagon 35/2
  • Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2

And there are many more where that came from. Old stuff is useful. I'd genuinely like to see a modern post-2000 lens that has optical performance anywhere close to the outlined 3 lenses. Resolution isn't everything, there are more qualities to a photographic lens. We are artists, not computers, needing the highest resolution lens for machine vision tasks. And I do enjoy more organic lenses, like three-element lenses. Yes, the resolution is rubbish, but everything else is great. The colour reproduction is insanely good, as is the micro-contrast, together with its brilliant, out-of-focus rendering. These are just qualities that you cannot get with an 11 element prime lens where every small bit of spherical aberration or transverse chromatic aberration has been tuned out because in the end you add more elements and kill some of the signal. That's the natural trade-off and computers cannot fix the fundamental issue of absorption. You cannot buy physics, more elements mean more absorption. This will always remain the same, no matter if it's 100 years ago, or in 1000 years, the laws of physics stay the same.

Tldr: If you only take away one thing, then just give old lenses a try. There's no harm in trying the cheaper ones.

Edit: And also, yes, lightweight plastics means the lens will be lighter, but you pay the price in durability. And I will always prefer durability.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My, my, you are asking a big question herehere are some to start out.

  • Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 50/2.8 (Soap bubble bokeh and three element goodness.)
  • Auto Chinon 55/1.7 (beautiful, smooth and perfect bokeh You have never seen anything like it. They are quite rare, however.)
  • Meyer Optik Görlitz Primoplan 50/1.9 (Beautiful micro contrast and very smooth gradations. Brilliant black and white lens.)
  • Meyer Optik Görlitz Primotar 50/3.5 ( four element goodness. So, essentially, most of the organic qualities of the Jena Tessar, but with the more organic components toned down. Microcontrast suffers a wee bit under the additional element, but not too much.)
  • Meyer Optik Görlitz Telemegor 180/5.5 (The long telephoto portrait lens. Enough said.)
  • Super-Takumar 135/3.5 ( If you check online and find this lens for maybe 30 to 50 quid, you'll think you're insane and you made a mistake and you accidentally bought a way more expensive lens. The micro contrast and resolution of this lens is unreal, especially considering the price.)
  • Nikkor 28-85 mm f/3.5-4.5 AF ( You can buy them dirt cheap for less than 100 quid online, and it is a good competent zoom. It even has a macro switch, so if you're just starting out and want to spend little money, this lens is your go-to.)

All of these lenses should be readily available on eBay. I excluded the rare stuff.

Edit: And there's much more. I still have a very limited experience with that. I have some more than I outlined. But believe me, there's some great stuff out there waiting to be discovered. I also fixed a spelling mistake

[–] ZkhqrD5o 4 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Spend as much as you can on the lens. The camera is negligable. Listen to someone who made the horrible mistake of inverting that philosophy once.

Adapting with lens/camera communication usually does not work. There are some bayonets which can do it, but they are very, very limited.

Forget adapting anything to a DSLR. In all honesty, you really should buy mirrorless cameras. Reason being mirrorless cameras have adapters to basically every bayonet ever created. DSLRs do not. With DSLRs you are locked into the manufacturer of your DSLR for your lens choice, which may be very limiting.

Also, try to adapt manual focus lenses to your camera. Many of mankind's greatest glass is manual focus only. Bonus is you can get a manual focus lens for dirt cheap, one that has quality that will blow your socks off. People think that old optics are inherently worse, which is false. Optics haven't had any development since a hundred years, with a few minor exceptions.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 4 points 20 hours ago

Most of all, since I switched to GNU/Linux, I didn't need to reinstall my system every single year to keep it performant, so after the first year it already felt stale!

[–] ZkhqrD5o 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My Personal Workflow

  1. Offload everything from the memory card to my trueNAS into a descriptively named folder.
  2. Darktable import and colour grading
  3. Export and sharing
  4. (Maybe if necessary VFX with GIMP)

You're not seeing the edits you do in Darktable in Digicam because Digicam is a library application. You take a finished JPEG there and it will sort it by tags or things it sees in the image through machine vision, etc. Digicam cannot read the instructions Darktable gives in its sidecar ".xmp" files. Export from Darktable to JPEGs and put it into your Digicam folder. Then it will work out.

Edit: Fixed typo.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 4 points 2 days ago

Uh, I always thought it was ambiguous who did it in the end, because it doesn't matter for Fallout.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 2 points 2 days ago

I definitely wouldn't say master, but I'm competent at lighting.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 10 points 2 days ago

But we have Lemmy, the Fediverse, qBitTorrent, Tor, I2P, GrapheneOS and the Armada of GNU/Linux distros. Look at Android, as long as something is FOSS, someone will take the rubbish out and make something usable, not only GrapheneOS, but CalyxOS, DivestOS, eOS and whatnot. The internet is pretty good, if you know what to look for and where to ask.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 6 points 3 days ago

We don't talk about the lizard episode. And Tuvix.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 6 points 3 days ago

If you mean that's how machine learning image generation works, well, it's worse. The companies creating these programmes know exactly where they're taking it from. They deliberately ignore licensing, example: the GPL. Then they basically create an elaborate spreadsheet and tell the media it's alive or some nonsense. And in comes the capital.

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Low effort meme (lemmy.world)
 

The picture is not mine. I just adapted it. Don't know the original source.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nice grade man.

[–] ZkhqrD5o 6 points 1 week ago

"Супер сус". Channel name is in Cyrillic.

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Japanese macaque (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 week ago by ZkhqrD5o to c/pics
 

What do you guys think of cross-posting? I usually post this on a photography lemmy first and then just cross post here. Right thing to do, wrong thing to do?I'm new here. Tips are appreciated.

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Japanese macaque (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 week ago by ZkhqrD5o to c/photography
 
 

Developed using Darktable.

 

Yes, it kind of is hypocritical to ask this on a social media platform, but what do you guys get out of it?

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