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but sometimes you have kids online who don’t obviously seem like kids because you can’t see them

Point taken... Altho personally I don't care about how old someone is. When I game online or just squat on Lemmy/Reddit/forum, I'm fine taking to people whether they're 13 or 70. If anything, younger people tend to be more open minded, which possibly comes with having access to all the information.

But yea I guess some topics probably hit different when you grow up in a certain style of environment. Still, when I babysit kids, I find they are curious about everything and are willing to change their mind if they get explained something realistically. And I don't see younger people ask loaded questions as often as older folks do.

I’d imagine if you’re not in tech circles you also don’t find out much about privacy risks.

I don't begrudge people for not knowing things. What I find interesting is how they react when they learn about something, or their initial train of thought. You probably know the experiment of asking randos "should dihydrohen monoxide be banned?"

I have this hobby almost, I like finding new things, weird and divisive stuff. Oddball topics, weird fetishes, strange habits, crazy hobbies, wild art, whatever. If there's a community with "weird" in the title, I'll probably subscribe to it.

And it also gives me some insight into how outsiders react when they stumble upon that stuff. Most people, when confronted with something out of their ordinary, tend to go "damn good thing I'm normal, everyone is weird" or worse. So I guess it is human nature, but you can also imagine how tiring it can get.

I understand and even appreciate that people have different priorities, worries and preferences. Which is why I dislike the attitude some take, "if you don't care about X, you're part of the problem". It may even be true in lots of cases, but we can't all care about the same things, less we all worry about everything all the time, and that's not good or realistic.

Funny thing though. I've seen people have civil debates about the most sensitive, divisive topics, as long as the initial question or statement comes from a place of genuine curiosity.

But whenever I see people ask the "why is privacy important?" question, it's never just "am I missing something?" but more of a "gimme all the ads, collect everything about me, I don't care", sometimes with the "you conspiracy theorists weirdos, nobody cares about you and you're probably pedos anyway" sprinkled in.

So it's a bit tiring to see this over and over, hence my snark at the beginning. And I don't know where the attitude is coming from. Maybe it's just a relatively new issue and people aren't used to constantly being exposed to the debate, like with some other topics?

But in that case I gather that it should be the opposite problem - we used to have much more privacy than we have now, that just has to be obvious (hence the questions in the first place), so the proper question to ask would be "wait, why is everyone so interested in everything I do all of a sudden? Why is every corporation suddenly collecting all my data and giving me free stuff in return while raking in billions of profits? Hm, sus"

Eh maybe I'm missing something.

My point is that if it's something that clearly lots of people care about, it's probably a good idea to think a little.

The "why anyone would" part is in the "why people make a fuss". I don't wish to be a teacher here picking apart every word, don't get me wrong, but people get upset if you invalidate what they care about. It's like telling someone who's angry to calm down.

Fortunately people here have more patience heh.

By Trek's logic, Tuvix's identical copy lives in an alternative universe of some sort. And that's really the only way to justify all this.

Ed: Also the "Oh wait, they can't speak so someone has to speak for them" has some interesting implications, doesn't it.

Don't look in girls' bags though. If you do, you may stare into the void for eternity or get eaten by a 6-dimensional space monster.

Well imagine coming to a vegetarian forum and asking: "Why does everyone make a fuss about killing animals? I eat meat three times every day, go on hunts every month, sometimes just for fun, I don't even eat those animals. Also I don't care about cages and all that, animals don't have souls anyway."

It may also be a genuine question, but sometimes it's good to spend 10 seconds before asking, either by just thinking or maybe do a very brief web search.

In general, questions of the "I don't care about X so I don't see why anyone else could" kind tend to be like that. You can ask, but you can also expect people won't want to talk to you.

If you'd phrase this in a less twatty way, you could almost ask this in a "no stupid questions" community.

Full frame is overkill for a beginner. Lenses are much more important than bodies or format. You're much better off getting a second-hand APS-C body from a few generations back, and invest in lenses, than getting a top FF body and just a kit lens.

Depends on the budget of course. But you'll want to experiment and try different lenses, so that's what you need to budget for.

Which system/brand is the best - neither, it depends on your preferences.

First you should decide whether you want a DSLR (with an actual mirror) or an EVF camera. That's pretty important for the feel, and it's to your preference.

Second is the ergonomics of the system. Fujifilm and Olympus (or what's that they call themselves now) generally regarded as very "classical", Canon, Nikon and Pentax have their own styles that have evolved over 70 years, and Sony and Panasonic are more modern and more video-focused.

And then there are lenses. There's quite parity between systems so it doesn't matter that much which you choose, with the exception of Canon M system which has weak support and is dead. So the M50 is good only if you can get it cheap and treat it as a one-off for learning. (Ed: actually I think you can mount adapted APS-C DSLR lenses so there's still an upgrade path.)

I used to have Nikon DSLRs, but I'm not a huge fan of their new EVF offerings.

Sony is the biggest brand out there but I never liked their ergonomics and style.

Canon is kind of a gold standard, but always make weird choices re what can be in which model, and lately seem confused.

Pentax probably has the best ergonomics and controls ever, but is an extremely niche brand at this point.

OM system is lovely, but their smaller 4/3 sensor makes lenses different and is on life support.

If I was starting from scratch today, I'd probably go with the Fujifilm X system. Lots of various choices, been around for a while, good support, open lens system.

I suggest you look at Thom Hogan's sites bythom.com and sansmirror.com

I don't think they like memes here but we at [email protected] do

This is cool. Do you have a version with a transparent background?

That's how I learned to tie my shoelaces as a kid. I was "taught" by a cousin iirc, who was barely older than me and couldn't demonstrate it properly. I figured it out on my own by visualising it. It's the bunny ears method that I use to this day.