UnPassive

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[–] UnPassive 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a bit complicated, but the answer is it is sort of possible for anyone who is dead and didn't have their ordinances done to get to the highest kingdom. Mormons famously baptize dead people, they also do other ordinances for dead people. The belief is that it allows the dead person to then accept or deny the ordinances. They believe that in the afterlife before resurrection there is still the opportunity to be taught the Mormon gospel. That combined with someone doing your ordinances for you and you're good.

They believe dead people are doing missionary work to other dead people in the spirit world before resurrection (which I think happens after the second coming). I've heard that the second coming won't happen until everyone (alive and dead) has had the opportunity to accept the Mormon truth.

[–] UnPassive 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Haha, I see. There's some really good ex-Mormon jokes about how the highest tier of heaven (Celestial Kingdom) is boring and white and reverent and then the third tier (Telestial Kingdom) is a 24/7 rave. If given a choice on where I want to spend my afterlife, I'd probably consider the company I'd end up spending eternity with.

General connotation of Hell though is that it's a miserable place

[–] UnPassive 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Haha, I love this idea. Unfortunately with more context on the religion, it's obvious why none of them would come to this conclusion. So there's actually 3 tiers of Heaven (and then Hell which is called "outer darkness"). Only by knowing "the truth" and completing all your ordinances on Earth, can you get into the top tier (the "Celestial kingdom"). Without those things, you can only get into the second tier by being a good person, no higher. Everyone else gets tier 3 - which is said to be such a paradise that if we knew how great it was we'd opt out of life early to get there. But also in the lower levels we're supposed to have eternal regret for not being worthy of better.

So Mormons believe that by spreading the truth they're enabling a person to achieve a higher tier afterlife. Outer Darkness isn't really a concern because "why would anyone ever deny the one true religion and one way to have true happiness on Earth, after they've received it." When I was taught these lessons, I was even told that sons of perdition were exceptionally rare because almost no one ever leaves the church. Never expected to become one myself! The internet has not been good for the Mormon church and in recent years they've been bleeding members and trying to rebrand.

I guess you could say that I came to your conclusion, but in reality I just don't believe the religion is true and see parts of it as harmful so not really... I'll probably joke around with my siblings with your idea though

[–] UnPassive 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Not saying anyone deserves eternal punishment for finite sins, but I do believe I'm more moral than Hitler - so it seems a but unfair to me. And silly for them to believe it's true.

[–] UnPassive 27 points 7 months ago (14 children)

I was raised Mormon (LDS) and there are parallels; basically they believe Mormonism is the one true and complete denomination of Christianity and once you learn this, you need to spread that truth (mandatory 2 year missions for men, and a STRONG culture of missionary work through life), also, no one goes to hell in Mormonism except those who learned this truth and then later denied it/left it (called a son of perdition).

So my parents believe I'll go to hell without the likes of Hitler because he never was taught "the truth" lol

[–] UnPassive 50 points 7 months ago

Only thing historically significant about the 10 commandments is that the founding fathers didn't want them in classrooms

[–] UnPassive 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's a DeskCycle 2 - Got it used on ebay and would definitely recommend depending on budget (it cost a bit). The display came with an optional desk mount which is nice. Things seems well thought out and it actually has a heavy flywheel. Manual says it never needs serviced. I was gonna do a walking desk treadmill but I heard some of the people downstairs in our office complaining about how loud they are. I've also heard treadmills make it harder to type but this bike doesn't affect me. AND also I didn't want to have to have a pair of walking shoes at work (my bike commuting shoes aren't great for walking). But I would wager that walking could be a healthier passive working activity than biking (just because I'm still sitting down while I bike and still feel like I need to stand up every hour or so)

[–] UnPassive 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm just lightly pedaling - my office is cold so I actually still kept my hoodie on all day. Going for zone 2 or less :) Normally my hands get cold though and they haven't with the bike

[–] UnPassive 2 points 7 months ago

I bike through the winter and one time they didn't plow the bike path and it snowed so much through the day that on my way home my boots were dipping into the snow. Should have worked from home but I have pride issues lol

[–] UnPassive 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sazerac; raining here too

[–] UnPassive 2 points 7 months ago

I built a new commuter bike and only had to go to the bike shop for help 3 times. It has a lot of gravel components so I took it to the smoothest mtb trail near me and I now know that under biking is pretty fun, but also super rough and slow. Gonna throw fenders and racks on tonight hopefully

[–] UnPassive 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Probably gonna have a season pass and battle royale mode

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