Jonna

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[–] Jonna 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I doubt you've even seen them. Even the protests organized by Palestinians welcome Jewish Voices for Peace who have signs that say, "Never Again Means for Everyone". And Jewish Voices for Peace organize a lot of protest themselves. Antifa peeps show up to make sure Nazis don't infiltrate.

[–] Jonna 1 points 11 months ago

Why I have pistachios on hand

[–] Jonna 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

While voting is a necessary but insufficient way to combat fascism, 96% of voting Ukrainians choosing to not support fascism is a good indicator that fascism is NOT on the agenda in Ukraine. A fascist coup by that 2% supporting fascism would be opposed by the vast majority of Ukraine.

You completely ignore that fact with your hardon for attacking the identity of persons chosen by the Ukrainians.

Edit to explain: I made no argument on what Zelinsky as a Jew or the Muslim cabinet member would be politically, which would be identity politics. This statement of fact (Zelinsky is Jewish) was relevant to the political preferences of the Ukrainian people. Fascists don't choose Jews and Muslims to represent them.

Zelinsky is a pretty terrible neoliberal, and I'm not actually a fan. But I am a fan a national self determination. So was Lenin.

[–] Jonna -1 points 1 year ago

Who says they aren't voting Democrat when it comes down to it? They're trying to improve their voting choice. Ffs.

[–] Jonna 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is not that. There's nothing in the article to suggest that they are supporting Republicans.

They even admit they may have to 'recalibrate' if their campaign doesn't achieve results.

They are announcing that they want change from the Democrats. Frankly, this is what environmental, labor, feminist and police reform movements should be doing. The Democrats are better than. Republicans on all those issues, BUT THEY STILL SUCK.

[–] Jonna 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is pressure to make the Democrats better, whether by changing their stance or getting different Dems.

Would you suggest accepting that the Democrats as they are is enough to stop climate change, end wealth inequality, provide housing and healthcare, end discrimination, reform the police, etc?

[–] Jonna 7 points 1 year ago

The number of Google apps that have been killed astounds.

[–] Jonna 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah, it's a problem. A threatened country integrated a fascist militia into its army. Yes, and that's bad.

But the country as a whole does not like Nazis at all, and doesn't vote for them.

"In the 2019 Ukrainian elections, the far-right nationalist electoral alliance, including Svoboda, National Corps, Right Sector, Azov Battalion, OUN, and Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, under-performed expectations. In the presidential election, its candidate Ruslan Koshulynskyi received 1.6% of the vote, and in the parliamentary election, it was reduced to a single seat and saw its national vote fall to 2.15%, half of its result from 2014 and one-quarter of its result from 2012."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Ukraine

The country has a Jewish president and a Muslim cabinet minister. Sound like a Nazi country to you?

[–] Jonna 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Before the Zionist movement, Palestine was ruled first by the Ottomans and then the British. Prior to Zionism, the land held Christians (the latest bombardment destroyed the 3rd oldest Christian Church in the world), Muslims, and Jews. In fact the early Palestinian national movement considered Jewish Palestinians to be Palestinian and their demands them full rights in a secular state of Palestine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews

Genetics, if that matters, shows that the pre-zionist natives of Palestine are closely related to European (Sepahrdic and Ashkenazi) Jews. Basically some people left centuries ago, but some people stayed.

Now since 1948 those that left want to kick out those that stayed, or kill them if they don't leave.

[–] Jonna 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are covenants all through Israel that forbid travel and residency by "full citizens" Palestinians of Israeli citizenship. There are separate schools. Do we not remember "separate is not equal"?

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