DudePluto

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[–] DudePluto 2 points 2 years ago

Context: Çatalhöyük was a neolithic community in what is now Turkiye. Despite being a proto-city of up to 10,000 people, it shows very few signs of inequality and no sign of government.

[–] DudePluto 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For the curious: Çatalhöyük was a neolithic community in what is now Turkiye. Despite being a proto-city of up to 10,000 people, it shows very few signs of inequality and no sign of government.

[–] DudePluto 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Will Zhu Li be your pilot?

[–] DudePluto 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Were you able to get through? I think I fixed it by including @lemmy.ml at the end of the link

[–] DudePluto 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're not alone, it's some sort of issue that's been happening the last couple days due to federation issues between lemmy.world and lemmy.ml

I’m getting a 404 when I follow that link

You may be able to view the community directly by going to https://lemmy.ml/c/[email protected] or you can view what lemmy.world has logged so far at https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

I also couldn’t find it when searching on lemmy

What might help is copying the direct link ^ and pasting it into your community search bar on your home instance. It may or may not say "no results," but if you do a regular search for the community afterward it should help.

Thank you for your patience!

Edit: I think I fixed it? apparently I have to include @lemmy.ml at the end or it gives a 404 error

[–] DudePluto 2 points 2 years ago

Absolutely, I don't think this needs to be a permanent rift or divorce between the two instances, and I don't think there should be any bad blood - only understanding. But at this time of rapid growth I do think the defederation question is an important one to consider

[–] DudePluto 3 points 2 years ago

Good ol' reliable Lemmy :p haha

Looking forward to seeing you there!

[–] DudePluto 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is great. Have you thought about sharing your work over at c/worldbuilding at https://slrpnk.net/c/[email protected] ?

[–] DudePluto 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We're working on it. With your help, /c/[email protected] can become a lot more active :)

[–] DudePluto 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Really enjoying the color scheme in this. What was the cause of the Shutdown War?

Also Beehaw defederated? I'm glad you reposted anyway, as I'm experiencing a ton of federation issues with this community and can only see/interact with some of its posts :(

[–] DudePluto 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yeah try googling questions and you'll see the results of the blackout. I've already had at least 3 questions that would've been answered by reddit, but when I clicked the link I couldn't read it because the community was private

[–] DudePluto 14 points 2 years ago

Tankies [1] don’t usually believe that Stalin or Mao “did nothing wrong,” although many do use that phrase for effect (this is the internet, remember)

Fair enough. Though I do disagree that they don't usually deny their shortcomings but both sides of that claim are pretty hard to prove so I concede.

We believe that Stalin and Mao were committed socialists who, despite their mistakes, did much more for humanity than most of the bourgeois politicians who are typically put forward as role models (Washington? Jefferson? JFK? Jimmy Carter?), and that they haven’t been judged according to the same standard as those bourgeois politicians.

Ok you can make that argument

People call this “whataboutism”

"Tankies" do often use whataboutism, that's irrefutable. Is this specific claim whataboutism? I'd say borderline, but I can see why it's still a point worth bringing up.

but the claim “Stalin was a monster” is implicitly a comparative claim

No, it's not - or at least not in the way he's implying. The claim is overly vague (how do we define a monster?) but it's not comparative. Whether Churchill committed atrocities (he did) and whether Stalin committed atrocities (he did) have no bearing on one another. All we have to do is define a monster - then we can measure whether a given leader was a monster. The only comparison needed is between the leader and the definition.

If people are going to make veiled comparisons, us tankies have the right to answer with open ones.

Sure, that's true. Except like I said that "Stalin was a monster" is not comparative. If someone says "Stalin was worse than Churchill" than Churchill is relevant. But if someone says "Stalin committed atrocities" then it is whataboutism to answer "So did Churchill." Churchill's atrocities bear no relevance to Stalin's.

A tankie is a leftist who doesn’t agree with mainstream geopolitical opinions

This is a stretch. Leftism, by and large, doesn't agree with "mainstream geopolitical opinions" so this doesn't properly distinguish them from other Leftists.

A tankie is a leftist who... shows any interest in nuance

Laughable. Tankies originate from Leftists walking the party line so claiming that all non-tankies lack "nuance" is a very... interesting accusation.

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