Ciderpunk

Remember when Dan Quayle of all people convinced Mike Pence to not go along with Trumps plan to not certify the 2020 election? Wild times.

Didn’t we already know this? I remember this being a thing during trumps first term and him doing absolutely nothing because he would’ve had to admit Russia did a bad thing which he’s mysteriously incapable of doing for reasons beyond anyone’s comprehension…

I know nothing you’re asking is in good faith but…

There’s a difference between your doctor being a little blunt about how you have cancer and aren’t going to live much longer and your doctor telling you that immigrants caused your cancer and his perfect tariffs are gonna cause healing like you’ve never seen and everyone will come up to him with tears in their eyes and tell him “sir, no one thought you could cure cancer with tariffs but you did it.”

Trump is the second one, in case you couldn’t tell.

“You don’t need to be protected from us” he said while invading.

Yeah, again, not a winning argument here.

Still hinging literally everything on Donbas not being externally caused I see. As long as you cover up interference in other countries, it’s fine to use that as pretext to invade and do whatever you want.

I mean, we agree, Russia intends to exploit Ukraine’s natural gas reserves in the regions they are occupying, which definitely meets the definition you set out so…

Unless you’re insisting that Russia is going to just give that territory up after all this, despite them claiming they have a hereditary right to it all, because they just really wouldn’t want to accidentally profit off taking over their neighbors territory in which case, it sounds like the “flat earth level analysis” is coming from inside the house.

I’m not sure what the point of this considering that I am specifically calling you out for refusing to admit Russia is doing an imperialism and your deflection is to say that Japan did an imperialism. Is that supposed to make Russia all clear to do an imperialism?

Shocking that you’ve once again decided to ignore the important part and are focusing on anything but acknowledging that maybe Russia has something to do with the situation.

It’s only imperialism if it comes from the West, otherwise it’s just sparkling being an asshole to your neighbors isn’t a winning argument.

I’m sure you can find the strength within to scroll up, I know you’re just trying to waste my time.

And again, we are back to do you have evidence that Zelensky would’ve done these things if there wasn’t an active invasion of the country because that kind of shifts the context here. War is horrific, and no one gets exempt from those horrors, but you seem very willing to pretend that Russia isn’t doing anything wrong and that these things are only bad when Ukraine does them to Ukrainians and that Russia is just trying to to help by killing shitloads of Ukrainians so they can’t hurt other Ukrainians???

As opposed to accusing someone on the Internet of personally overthrowing multiple governments, which actually very serious and definitely not nonsense…

Have you considered that doing an imperialism under a non-western flag is still doing an imperialism?