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My mom got me the spot gen 4 for Christmas. Im out in the middle of nowhere a lot of the time and am interested in having it for emergencies or communicating when I have no signal however I am not a fan of being tracked on the go. Is there anything to be concerned of with these type of products? Id say yes but I cant find anything online.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

The satellite uplinks these devices use is very bandwidth limited, and quite expensive. I can assure you that it's not routinely sending anything without telling you.

Source: worked in satellite comms

[–] satanmat 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well that’s kinda the point.

I’d think that it would not really be a concern… Google tracks your location via its apps. As do others.

But I’d be more concerned in town rather than when you’re outin the wilderness

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fair..

Batteries are removable! Maybe I don't have anything to worry about then. I can keep the batteries out until I need it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Maybe at the time you most need it, you'd want it to be as readily as possible. May I suggest a thin plastic layer to open the circuit rather than having the batteries out?

[–] cozycosmic 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you keep it turned off or battery removed when not needed for emergencies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, batteries are removable!

[–] morph3ous 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why not use one of these instead? The main downside I see is that you can’t send messages. But there is no monthly service fee. :)

https://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/emergency-406-beacons/

[–] morph3ous 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn’t mean the message to sound the way it did. You already have the Spot messenger and it is a cool product. I just wanted to present another useful way to signal for emergency help in remote areas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think I might go with a PLB! I really dont like the idea of a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No worries. I can still return it. Ill definitely look into this thank you!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If you really need to be sure these things are silent, travel with them in an ammo can or similar.

But if you choose to do that, be sure to have your phone in there too, phones are far chattier than a GPS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Idk, I think if I was in the middle of nowhere in an emergency, I would someone to know where I am, even if it’s a big corpo lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you all!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I haven't used a SPOT for ten years, but at that time they were pretty limited in their comms. They weren't on if I didn't want them to be on, and even when in and supposedly with service, were flaky. Now, I use an InReach. It has more functionality than the devices in the past, but the connection isn't really any better. All of these devices were owned and managed under government contracts but I don't think they would be any different. I have never used them to track myself as I go, I use different equipment for that.

Long story short, you'll worry more about getting service when you need than you will about being tracked when you don't want to be. A tree canopy or tall canyon can prevent comms.

Stay safe!