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How to get all Google Photos features without enabling backup? (self.android)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by tester1121 to c/android

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I use Google Photos as my photos app. I used to backup photos from another Android device when it was free to back up in reduced quality. I have noticed that some features (eg: Memories, face grouping, photo date editing) are only available for backed up photos, and not local ones. Is there a way to enable those features for local photos in Google Photos?

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[–] Rootiest 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, this stuff actually requires somewhat heavy ML processing that most phones probably couldn't do locally.

I think many people don't consider or overlook the fact that by "necessity" we allow companies like Google/Apple/Facebook full access to our photo libraries for the convenience of these features.

If you have the technical skill to I highly recommend trying out immich. It has all those features you are looking for: face matching, memories, photo maps, object recognition, etc. but those models are run locally (on your self-hosted server) instead of depending on Google/etc so your privacy is protected.

[–] tester1121 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, this stuff actually requires somewhat heavy ML processing that most phones probably couldn’t do locally.

My old iPod touch 7G could run it all locally, it just wanted me to connect to power when I did it (unless I am wrong and it did stuff on Apple servers, but then that would defeat Apple's claims about privacy...), which confuses me even more since the Pixel is marketed as an AI-first phone...

[–] Rootiest 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A modern Pixel phone could probably run the AI models locally but they would likely be more limited and it wouldn't be particularly battery-friendly.

An old iPod touch wouldn't be able to so I think it's safe to assume those functions were happening on Apple's servers.

In fact I would be confident claiming that no mobile devices are currently running these models locally, whether you are using Google, Apple, or some other photo app.

Like I said, it may be possible for some modern devices with TPU chips to run them locally but that is not happening currently and would probably not be as good as experience if they were

This is exactly why I was motivated to start using Immich instead. Using any of these corporate services you are giving away your privacy for convenience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I assume all that happens on the server, so you couldnt do it locally

There are some self hosted options that do similar things

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism

[–] porksoda 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Immich is better in my opinion. Especially as a Google Photos replacement since it does maps, facial tagging, object identification and search.

Edit - Wow, Photoprism has a lot of those features now too. It's come a long way in the two-ish years since I looked at it.

[–] Spacecraft 4 points 11 months ago

This looks great. Going to throw it on my server tomorrow and see how it is.