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Is it time to reopen the subreddit? (self.postmarketos)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by grendel to c/[email protected]

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Today I checked the pmos sub and was quite surprised it was closed. And for what reason? API change is ancient history.

Clearly, the protest amounted to nothing and frankly once I figured out that reddit api change wasn't about preventing foss apps, but about squeezing paid apps out of the market, I didn't care about it at all.

What's important for any project is the community, and reddit is simply the only place where such community can grow. So why not open it back up?

upd. it seems that this thread is the most actions this community had in months. Clearly demonstrates the superiority of lemmy, right?

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[–] breadsmasher 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are you saying FOSS apps can be created and freely use the reddit api, with no cost? Thats news to me

[+] grendel -13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

as far as I know, redreader which is a foss app, wasn't affected by reddit's fees/api change

[–] breadsmasher 7 points 1 year ago

Redreader was given a specific exemption. So thats specific to a couple apps and not a general rule

In response to user outcry, Reddit introduced exemptions for developers of “non-commercial apps that address accessibility needs.” Rathschmidt confirmed that two apps, Dystopia and RedReader, have received exemptions, and the company is in talks with “a number of developers focused on accessibility.”

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759761/reddit-disability-accessibility-blackout-api-blind

[–] krigo666 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

RedReader has strong accessibility features and was given an exemption for that.

[+] grendel -12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, I was not 100% accurate on that, maybe even completely wrong, but that's beside the point. The point is, protest amounted to nothing, and I do not think that it is beneficial for potential community growth to have the subreddit dead.

[–] krigo666 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with you, though an argument can be made that might make (some) users look for alternative communities like the one here in Lemmy... but it might backfire also.

People want choice, yes, but after having chosen they do not like to change.

Personally I don't mind change when it is for the better, but as much as it pains me I've been thinking about the communities I haven't visited in Reddit. Don't get me wrong, Reddit is still a shithole but there are strong communities there for specific subjects that should not be abandoned or destroyed, we need to lure them to move out of Reddit.

[+] grendel -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

we need to lure them to move out of Reddit

I really don't think it's possible. Reddit's strength is that basically everyone is already on reddit. If someone has an odd question about specific topic, they can pretty much instantly find a community and solve their issue. I guess you can lure the core of the community: regulars and contributors, but when people like me have some minor interest in something, it's highly unlikely they'll go out of their way to register somewhere else to ask a question.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the alternative of splitting the community and reopening the Reddit bad

[–] grendel -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm looking at the stats of this community and I gotta say 3 users / day, 38 users / 6 months is negligible even compared to small community on reddit. I don't really think it would split anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'd say that that makes it more probable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just on your instance, those stats haven't been made to federate.

[–] grendel 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see the same numbers when I look at https://lemmy.ml/c/postmarketOS and https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

Only the number of subscribers, posts and comments differ. Anyway, it's still order of magnitude away from what was possible on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Huh, you're totally right. I didn't realize that had gotten implemented. Thanks for the correction!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

It worked for me. I came here instead of Reddit, which would have alternatively been my primary choice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I for one ditched Reddit long ago and am never going back. Not for any project. If they want to have a sub reddit then fine but they better have FOSS options ike Lemmy as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'd like it opened for new users to be able to participate there without a Lemmy account, but there's a cost-benefit ratio to everything, and the additional moderation burden and potential fragmentation of the small community appears to outweigh the benefits. Additionally, a lack of choice paralysis can be quite a significant advantage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No.

[–] grendel -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You just replied to a two-month old post. What a booming community! Clearly, leaving reddit vitalized it so much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You shouldn't criticise someone because they were late to a discussion.

[–] grendel 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You couldn't even comprehend that I wasn't criticising a person (consider this as criticism). Instead, I made a point illustrating that switching off from reddit didn't do any good for the community. It really isn't that great that instead of active discussion you stumble upon months-old threads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You couldn’t even comprehend that I wasn’t criticising a person (consider this as criticism).

I evidently am able to comprehend it. If I were as incapable as you purport, you informing me would be worthless. You doing so, with this response, demonstrate consequently that your assumption is incorrect. It's a strange one to make.

It really isn’t that great that instead of active discussion you stumble upon months-old threads.

You responding renders it active. Any alternative designation is fundamentally nonsensical.

If you're to discuss semantics, be more pedantic, else this conversation is uninformative for us.

I made a point illustrating that switching off from reddit didn’t do any good for the community.

I'm aware. It's quite easily comprehensible. However, it's unsubstantiated, hence the downvotes.