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When will be your "this is the last fucking time I'm voting for the 'lesser of two evils', then I don't care after that, let this country burn to the ground"? For me, this is basically it. This is last election I'm going for that " lesser of two evils" bullshit. After that I'm done. It's just pointless. Let's hear it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (8 children)

You guys were voting based on "lesser of two evils" and not based on who you actually like?

I've always just voted for the guy I like best. I never felt that voting tactically was truthful.

If everyone was like me we'd have a nicer political climate, I think.

I'll keep doing that so you can feel free to join me in doing that until we reach the critical mass point.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That'd require there to have ever been a candidate I like. There hasn't been, at least on the federal level

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

During the Iraq War, Kurt Vonnegut was asked about the anti-war protests.. His response was that, during Vietnam, he was part of anti-war protests firing on all cylinders and laser-focused and going to stop that war. He said it was ultimately about as effective as climbing to the top of a ladder and tossing a pie on the ground. This time will be no different.

So I don't know what you're hoping to gain. The 'Ima take my ball and go home' approach didn't work out so well in 2016. Threatening not to vote isn't going to phase anyone in a country where more than half the population doesn't vote anyway. Maybe instead of threats you should work with other people trying to help the people you want elected get elected.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The blessing of having MMP is .. you don't have to vote for a lesser evil! You can actually vote for a good option!

I did! And they didn't get in because Money! It's fucking awesome!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It was 2004.

Voting the lesser evil is a downward spiral of evil. If no candidates can meet the minimum standard, abstain on that race and fill out the rest of the ballot. It sucks, but it sucks a lot less than enabling whichever monster can be slightly less monstrous for the ten months before the election.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Basically when I don't feel like there are plans for immediate sweeping terrible decisions that will take decades to undo

[โ€“] Lauchs 1 points 11 months ago

As long as it takes until the youth voting rate matches that of the elderly and we get good options that actually change anything...

But that would rely on us getting out and voting instead of bitching online so I don't have much hope.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

When the greater of two evils who might win if I don't isn't a raging narcissistic fascist.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The chances of your vote being the one to change the outcome of a large election are extremely small, so it doesn't really matter that much what you do with your ballot. However, if you have the means to influence other people's votes, that might count for something. Therefore, I think it's good to discourage people from voting for the apparent lesser of two evils. If you vote, try to vote as best as you can for your class interests. (Chances are that you belong to the working class.) Don't feel bad about abstaining if the candidates to choose from represent class interests that are counter to yours to the extent that you can barely tell them apart.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

imagine how good the world would be if America imported the Australian style Westmister system.

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