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Considering the way there are people completely out of touch with reality (Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos come to mind, among many others), is it possible that maybe all that greediness made them lose their humanity? Probably not literally but I guess moreso in a metaphorical way.

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[โ€“] crypticthree 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've spent a lot of time around the wealthy. The vast majority are living in a highly distorted reality. I think it comes from the fact that they are surrounded by yes men and sycophants. They never get told no, no matter how shitty they behave or how stupid their ideas are .

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing that perspective with us.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In addition to that, I have noticed that wealthy people have difficulties participating in normal social relationships. Not that they are all psychopaths or anything, but just that the difference in what is possible to do will be a hindrance to forming equal social bonds. I'd like to think that I would still be cool even if I someday got rich, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible. Extreme differences are obvious. A billionaire won't spend his day hanging out in a trailer park and the poor can't afford to go jet skiing everyday, so they're financially segregated. My observation is that this also happens in much less extreme differences. Even small differences from a promotion or from having a higher paid educational level can cause a large rift between two ordinary people. Now I'm not suggesting that we should have communism or anything, but just to explain why rich people get out of touch with reality in a way that isn't just lizard talk or psychological diagnostics. It can happen to anyone who gets money.

[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't like the rich, and I do think that to get that kind of money you fundamentally have to give part of yourself away. But lizard people specifically is an antisemitic trope, and also just outright a lot less believable than them being human but deeply flawed. That sort of thinking can happen to anyone if they get enough money and power, after all.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Calling people who do terrible things "animals" or some specific type of animal almost separates them, as if the only reason they did something bad is because they have a fundamental flaw. This line of thinking allows us to believe we could never be that bad because we are humans and not animals like them.

[โ€“] applejacks 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But lizard people specifically is an antisemitic trope

lmao explain

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

From what I can tell, the lizard people conspiracy theory was started by David Icke, an antisemite and Holocaust denier. There are lots of conspiracy theories that come from the belief that Jews control the world either through media, some secret society or, in this case, by being shapeshifting lizards. This is just another iteration of the idea that Jews are different from everyone else and are trying to control the world.

[โ€“] trachemys 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All Iโ€™m saying is that there has been a conspiracy to get us to burn oil, avoid clean energy, and it just so happens that lizards like higher temperatures.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's a smart move

[โ€“] Scew 0 points 1 year ago

Second coming of Littlefoot?

[โ€“] Gadg3tm 11 points 1 year ago

Oh absolutely. I'd argue they were barely in touch with their humanity in the first place. How else can you accumulate that much wealth off the backs of others without stopping and saying to yourself, "who have I become".

[โ€“] timeisart 7 points 1 year ago

Actual psychopaths have brains that are wired differently than normal people, they are literally not capable of feeling empathy or are able to feel the pain they caused that allowed them to amass their fortune. So yeah in a way I think that makes them less than human.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think the word your looking for is compassion or empathy.

And yes studies have shown an inverse corelate between them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Greed is a horrible addiction, these people have sacrificed so much time and energy they could have spend on loved ones simply because they where thought that your life worth is measured cash. There is no way back for them, its literal investors fallacy. They can spend the rest of their life in luxery leissure while tipping generously to anyone poor they face and they still wouldnโ€™t be able to spend the majority of their fortune.

And yet they chose to do whatever it takes to gain even more. Truly sick and really really sad.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Lizards are cool, we shouldn't shame them by comparing rich people to them

[โ€“] morgan_423 3 points 1 year ago

They are dragons from stereotypical fantasy fiction. They literally hoard treasure from everyone and then sit on the pile, removing wealth from society forever.

[โ€“] ShlorpianMafia 3 points 1 year ago

Millionaires? Eh, kinda, but not really.

Billionaires? Oh absolutely. It seems people really lose touch with reality and think they're fucking special when basically everyone, including millionaires, become "yes men" to them.

"Why not buy twitter? It's only like 40 billion, right?" .... "Good idea, boss!"

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Billions

If you manage to make it through life to retirement you usually are a multi-millionaire in many countries.

I don't know where the line is though I suspect its somewhere around the level where buying regulations becomes pocket change.

[โ€“] tallwookie 2 points 1 year ago

are you metaphorically channeling David Icke?

[โ€“] S_204 2 points 1 year ago

This is an anti Semitic trope that goes back to the Elders of Zion.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not literally but absolutely metaphorically. They have dragon sickness.

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