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You'd think this would give us some wiggle money to play with to build out new energy infrastructure. You're wrong though, there is no wiggle. We need all renewables like Germany.

Although the transition to EVs will require an enormous increase in base production capacity, it would be wasteful to build out nuclear to meet it.

$16m an hour might seem like a lot of damage, but nuclear can only exacerbate economic loss which is equally important as climatic loss.

Renewables now!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Germany is in no way a role model when it comes to renewable energy.

[–] NewNewAccount 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren’t they ahead of many other developed nations? Just because they’re not perfect or their journey isn’t complete doesn’t mean their progress isn’t worth taking inspiration from.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Germany has made great sacrifice to be a leader in renewables. An example for other nations of what can be accomplished with confident determination.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That economic loss isn’t affecting the people it needs to affect for there to be real change. That’s the problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Privatize the Profits. Socialize the losses. It is known.

[–] ZephyrXero 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EVs are just a drop in the bucket. Most of the greenhouse gasses come from factories and industrial use

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

transportation accounts for 1/3 of emissions. as that demand transfers from oil to the electric grid, we'll need a lot more renewable-only capacity

[–] themusicman 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Transitioning away from cars entirely is far cheaper and more viable than transitioning to EVs. Fuck cars

[–] ChemicalPilgrim 7 points 1 year ago

We have all this car infrastructure already. Unless the plan is to somehow replace that all with light rail in the next ten years, EVs are a reasonable solution we can roll out on a shorter timeline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

aye, fuck cars

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 1 year ago

That's ok, they'll just raise prices and "rightsize" to keep the shareholders happy.

[–] conquer4 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germany predominantly sources its energy from fossil fuels. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And in 6 years, we will end coal as the first nation of the industrialized countries. The US is currently planing to phase it out in 16 years. Some other countries do not even have a plan for the next 20 years. What is your point?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

i wish we would do a space race to end coal

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

There are more fossil fuels then just coal though. You could squint and if you were paid to be dishonest you could say that Lignite isn't coal and therefore in 6 years when Germany is still burning Lignite, they have transitioned away from coal. Additionally they are not planning on transitioning away from Natural Gas at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's still cheaper than the wealthy paying taxes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh, is that all?