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Spez and getting rid of 3rd party

• Significant increase in non-human/bot accounts makes it difficult to know whether you're actually talking to a real person anymore.

• I was not personally affected by API changes and do not sympathize with for-profit 3rd party developers, however reddit's withdrawal of support for communities like Transcribers of Reddit is mean-spirited and marginalizes our friends and neighbours who want to enjoy social media like everyone else.

• Nothing good ever happens for an existing userbase when an organization/product joins the zombie death-march of publicly-traded assets. Capitalism will inevitably ruin everything it encounters, and reddit will not be spared from this outcome.

I can't say I definitely won't go back...I like Lemmy's community better than Reddit's but I'm not sure it'll ever be as popular or as reliable as a source of info as Reddit. I think the Fediverse runs into similar problems to Linux, where it's definitely superior in most ways to the nonfree competition, but that superiority goes hand in hand with inaccessibility to non-nerds. I like Tumblr's community less than Reddit (and Lemmy, Reddit, and Tumblr are the only three social media sites I even find the community tolerable, though I don't have Mastodon because I don't have anyone I want to follow there) and Tumblr has never been useful for searching info.

But let me tell you, Spez's conduct and praise of Elon Musk is what has me considering not going back. It's just...he tried to act on the pulse of the userbase and failed spectacularly. Also hearing that Reddit is a noticably higher percentage assholes after the protests started.

Cause their main app sucks and they just made it impossible for RIF to stay alive.

Apollo is about to shutdown and reddit seems to be muskifying. Some of the posts from Christian (The Apollo dev) with transcripts and recordings with Spez pretty much solidified it for me.

It got too corporate and sterile. If I wanted to be on the Walmart of social media, I'd rejoin Facebook.

Lemmy is exactly what I was looking for.

I was forced out. I’ve used Apollo for years and now it’s gone, so…

Rif is getting shut down. And most of the sensible people seems to be moving to kbin+lemmy. I just followed suit.

Honestly, mostly solidarity.

Sure, the fact that my preferred Reddit app was going the way of the dodo and the fact that they weren't even trying to negotiate in good faith were reasons, yeah, but at the end of the day, I was just gonna grit my teeth, patch the Reddit app with Revanced, and have that be my personal and insignificant F you.

Then I realized a bigger F you was to deprive them of content, future or present, (mine, specifically. As insignificant as it was) so I did.

And here I am

I’m finding Lemmy to be a breath of fresh air.

I don't want to support a company that conducts itself in a predatory manner nor encourage other sites to enshittify themselves. The idea that the drop in traffic will further devalue reddit gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

RIF was the catalyst, but since then, learning about the fediverse and its philosophy and potential has got me so excited about it. It could be a new direction for the internet, a way to stop the eventual enshittification of any site that gets popular, and it has so much room for innovation. There's already several "services" (I'm not sure what the best word is to refer to things like Mastodon and Lemmy) that use it in different ways, but I can imagine new ones being created to improve, expand on, and combine these ideas.

I just wanted to support the moderators who the Reddit CEO, et al, treated SO disrespectfully considering the amount of free labor moderators gave and the amount of grief they had to deal with.

I didn't even know about 3rd party apps before this all went down. I just used Reddit (for 11+ years) on my laptop, never on my phone.

No, Reddit's not going to disappear right away, but without the moderators and users, quality content will.

Edit to say: 1st post on Lemmy!

They refused to work with the people that built thier platform.

That and the lies.

I just don't trust Reddit anymore and it needs to go away before it harms others

Greedy little pigs fuck u/spez what an enormous piece of shit

I havent fully left. I'll probably still use it on my browser for some time while also visiting lemmy. It'll be dead to me on my phone though, boost was my window to reddit on mobile, removing that is a death sentence.

I was actually fine with the reddit app. All I want is memes and some news. I left to support the rest of the communities that were adversely impacted by the changes

Reddit deleted all of my accounts and IP banned me a few months ago because of a shitty power tripping mod on the Android subreddit.

You have no idea how happy I am that Reddit is imploding right now. I finally get to be part of conversations again.

They killed Sync

What everyone else has said... but also I had already noticed the quality of my feed dropping. I don't know exactly why, but things just felt emptier and less useful. Then I saw this place had enough users to be viable, and I jumped.

I used Reddit is Fun for about 7 years, I can't imagine going back to the official app with its clunky format even on the most compact setting and its hundreds of trackers mining user data for who knows what. The browser version still a useful enough tool for news, but that only lasts as long as users keep posting. Once they migrate here or somewhere else, that's the end for Spez's moneymaking scheme. I heard the RIF developer's working on an app for Tilde, but Connect for Lemmy has been a pretty good alternative so far.

I actually left Reddit in early 2022, I'm not from the latest migration wave. I left for a combination of these reasons, the first of which is the main one:

• algorithmic feed designed to arise strong emotions, often negative
• snark and noise in the comments
• ads
• impenetrable moderation rules that often make it difficult to figure why a post is rejected, even after carefully reading all the sub's guidelines and FAQs cover to cover, as well as reviewing past threads

Every time I discover an interesting new subreddit, the people there are always nice and friendly, and willing to listen.

And every time these subs grow past ~20K subscribers, the comment quality always takes a nosedive.

Just everybody yelling over each other with tired jokes and pointless arguments. And the place becomes just pure misery. But there is nowhere else to go, until now.

I want to see if federation can resolve these issues.

I deleted 50k karma worth of posts and comments and my account when it occurred to me that they're charging these API fees to essentially make money off content that I - and others like me - made. Screw that. I'll take my two cents elsewhere, thank you. It's pretty exciting to be part of something relatively new as well. There are already Lemmy reproductions of some of my favorite subreddits, and despite being significantly smaller, there's much less meta to slog through. People are talking about the things that made them passionate about those subjects to begin with again, rather than some obscure piece of memery that has taken over the entire community.

They pushed, I pushed back. I'm the user, I'm the reason for a forum to exist. Nobody should forget that!

Today, RIF stopped working. End of an era. I can still access the website, but I'm deleting my content and waiting to see what happens.

It wasn't one thing, but the final straw was how Spez handled the API changes that killed all the apps. I was already annoyed at the algorithm changes, the ads that were being served, how they handled so many things like firing Victoria (yes it was a while ago but I never forgot it), among lots of little things. But even with all that shit the thing that pushed things over was when they killed the apps and specifically how Spez handled it. What a choad that guy is. Maybe I would have stuck around if they'd done things differently, but damn man.

Well, the main thing is that they're killing BaconReader. I've used BaconReader for about a decade now, it just isn't the same without it.

And then when I came over here to try Lemmy out, I found it's pretty nice here. Especially with all the protest infighting Reddit has been pretty toxic lately. Or always, I guess.

And there are third party apps allowed here!

The loss of 3rd party apps and the disgusting arrogance and entitlement displayed by reddit, especially them lying and doubling down about Christian threatening them

I spend 80% of my time on Reddit on mobile. Now that Apollo (which I use on my iPad) and Sync (which I use on my Samsung phone) is shutting down, I just don't feel like using Reddit all that much anymore. The official app sucks and I hate the way Reddit is treating the community. If I need to use Reddit, I'll be sticking to the old web version with adblock running.

Sync stopped working :(

At first, it was simply that I cannot stand the official Reddit app. It baffles me how messy it is.

But as time went on I realized how fucked up the Reddit upper management is.

I’ve been following Lemmy and the fediverse in general for a while so I’m excited about this new energy. Like others have said, my reason for leaving Reddit specifically are:

• I won’t ever use the official app, fuck ads and bad U
• it sounds like old Reddit is going away, and I can’t stand new Reddit
• a platform more resilient to this type of changes is appealing

Death of the 3rd party apps. I used to use BaconReader but switched to Sync for Reddit a couple of years ago. Both way above and beyond the official reddit app that's full of bloat and ads (unless you pay for gold).

They really just didn't seem like they were going to bring the functionality of a lot of the 3rd party apps so I can't see myself using their official app long term.

Oh, plus the Sync dev said he is creating an app for Lemmy, which I had never heard of before this, so that's how I found myself here!

I didn't leave as much as I came here. I want a better web away from these mega corps.

The business model of silicon valley tech companies makes them worse to be a user of, but it also makes them less stable over time. I'm pretty sure fediverse apps can outlive corporate platforms.

And, frankly, i'm not looking forward to contributing to a publicly traded company, both as a user and as a moderator. Their interests fundamentally diverge from their user's.

Honestly? Reddit's fuck up. I'll always self host stuff if it makes sense, and all of a sudden Lemmy started making sense!

Killing off third party apps was the straw that broke the camel's back. I still browse Reddit, not gonna lie, but I don't contribute anymore. And my mobile browsing will likely stop entirely once Apollo stops working tomorrow. I'm using Lemmy as a substitute, but also using this whole thing as a general opportunity to use social media less... less time mindlessly browsing reddit, more time doing things I actually enjoy.

RiF being shut down and reddits management being assholes to community atm

Losing Apollo made Reddit too hard to use as a visually impaired person, and the quality of reddit is gone now that so many of us long time members left. I deleted my 11 year account because reddit made it clear we don’t matter.

Obviously losing the third party apps and spez's lies about the Apollo dev were the big ones, but honestly, I have had negative feelings towards the reddit community for a long time. Everyone is perpetually negative. They seem like miserable people. And the fact that every single comments section was same 3 fucking jokes repeated over and over and over. "I'm grieving my wife who passed away this morning" "I also choose this guy's dead wife." "Hahahahahahahahahahahahalolololoollolololol" "no it's okay, the guy who the original joke is about thinks it's funny, so it's not offensive to say it to this guy."

Deleted my account today. Their website is unusable on desktop or mobile. Their android app is also terrible. Infinity for android was really nice to use and made using Reddit a pleasant experience.

But then I get drawn in to looking at the Popular/Trending stream and it was doing my head in. Third party apps couldn't filter this to a country specific stream so it was only US content that I am not interested in. Honestly it seems like a shit show over there and I don't need to be bombarded with such negativity especially when it's not relevant to me. And switching to use the Reddit app was not going to happen.

I tried Lemmy out at the start of the blackouts and have found it a much more pleasant place to be. I can self host it too, which is a bonus.

I haven't missed it and it'll just be one of those places I once went.

I ain't using that goofy orange app.