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[–] cybersandwich 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should let them start in the pit.. There is no reason to start a lap down.

And in this particular case, Danny is right, there wasn't even a racing lap. Just let them back in the field at the back.

He drove well. He made up a minute and 10-15 seconds on the car in front of him.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They usually make them drive an extra lap before the restart. It wouldn't be entirely fair to have them race starting on the same lap as the others without ever having done that lap.

[–] essteeyou 9 points 1 year ago

So make them drive around the track until they're level. The red flag was a lengthy one anyway, adding another minute or so wouldn't have ruined anything, and skipping that completely ruined two races.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Fair point here > “Okay, it’s two of us today, but if 15 cars had damage and had to do what we did, are they going to start a race with 15 cars a lap down? I don’t think so. So I think they need to be a bit more open-minded. So that was frustrating.”

[–] LooseSeal 14 points 1 year ago

Yep, was pretty annoying watching. Didn't get to see any of ric or piastri on the feed either because they were dead last.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shit yeah!

Why was he a lap down? Bullshit! That's why!

[–] neumast 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Serious answer: because he retired the damaged car during the safety car. The safety car went for another lap, before the red flag came out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't red flag have a provision to unlap cars only 1 lap behind¿?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Given that they didn't the answer is apparently no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But Lewis and others unlapped themselves in 2021 at imola. I remember it being a major talking point of how Lewis was bailed out by the red flag

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what happened to Ricciardo and Piastri, I thought they were just slow because of damage! Given that lapped cars are generally allowed to unlap themselves before a safety car restart, why wasn't this allowed for a red flag standing restart?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Because it wasn't a safety car restart. Inconsistent rule book. Obviously the rules for safety car restart and red flag restart should be the same, but currently they aren't.

[–] davetapley 2 points 1 year ago

I wonder if either team thought of this (and/or decided it was too risky and/or checked with race control and got an explicit 'no'):

After the formation-but-not-formation lap returning to the pits as everyone else took to the grid, then driving through and completing another lap while the grid was forming up.

IIRC during that lap the graphic said safety car, so I don't see why you couldn't drive through the pits and continue on as you could under a normal safety car.