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I've been wanting to move away from Dropbox for a long while, but I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement. Dropbox has always been super convenient and has just worked for me.

I've tried Tresoit but the low link sharing limits (2gb) and 10gb limit for files is somewhat of a deal breaker for me. I've been interested in Proton Drive for a while, but until their mac app is ready it's unusable for me.

I've also tried self-hosting a nextcloud instance (multiple times) but I've always just had too many issues with it. It's been inconsistent in actually backing up files from my mac, I've had so many file conflicts, etc. I have a truenas scale server, so if there are other self-hosted methods I should try let me know.

Currently, I'm looking at filen and sync.com, but I've heard both have their issues so I'm curious to hear everyones thoughts on them as well.

Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Self hosted Nextcloud. Immich for photos.

[–] wreckedcarzz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

⚠️ Do not use the app as the only way to store your photos and videos.

immediately followed by

⚠️ Always follow 3-2-1 backup plan for your precious photos and videos!

now I don't think I'm overly bright, but that doesn't seem like advice to ignore

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weirdly enough, I didn’t say it was my only way to store anything, nor that the program stores photos at all.

It syncs the photos from my devices, the storage for those photos is on a separate server (as is the NextCloud storage) that is encrypted and backed up to Backblaze B2.

Immich is a gallery and organization app that syncs from your devices, the underlying storage is whatever you provide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This actually seems like a very cohesive solution, might try it out!

[–] wreckedcarzz 2 points 1 year ago

Weirdly enough, you didn't say but drew the readers to that conclusion, hence my point for others.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Nextcloud with Hetzner your-storageshare. ~5€/m for 1TB is hard to beat and it runs so well. I still use encryption and a few plugins like on a selfhosted instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a great option, I have used it too in the past. Since, I have switched to iCloud when they implemented e2e encryption. Seems no one else here goes that route, trust issues maybe.

I do miss versioning with iCloud.

I have proton drive too, waiting on that osx client.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

google drive.
i pretty much sold my soul to google at this point
anyway they have my address, payment info, all of my photos since 2014, my preferences from YouTube, google maps data and since I'm using google location sharing and find my phone, they have access to my exact location at all times; and half of my payments go through google pay and I'm using android with my google account.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Syncthing to my selfhosted proxmox server at home then rclone encrypted and unencrypted depending on content, to my cloud storage. Fully automtatic meanwhile.

Rclone syncs to various cloud services so the provider doesn't matter from a technical point of view.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use a Synology NAS which I can access from everywhere as long as I have internet connection.

[–] LUHG_HANI 3 points 1 year ago

Yeh this is probably the quickest, simplistic and most robust way. Not the cheapest but unless you have unraid ready and know exactly what to do you'd be hard pushed to find a better solution.

I use unraid, nextcloud, Immich, Tailscale and so on . It's not set and forget.

[–] Evotech 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google

With cryptomator

It's super cheap, and with cryptomator you can easily locally encrypt anything you put on there. With great iOS and Android support aswell

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'll second Cryptomator, it's relatively convenient and means I can use the free tiers of Google Drive, Dropbox, Onedrive, etc without them having a nose through all my stuff

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I run Dropbox, since they're only in cloud storage they can't really run around and sell data, if found out there would be no reason to stay for their customers. Unlike say Google and Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't trust a billion dollar company to not sell my datam Just sayin

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You run dropbox? Impressive.

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[–] tpWinthropeIII 4 points 1 year ago

Filen.io

Works well so far, is end to end encrypted, open source, and the apps are nice and solid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've never heard of crypt.ee till today, but wow is it amazing for all my document editing needs. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Nextcloud on my own hardware

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nextcloud docker on unRAID has worked well for me on...

Android, Windows and my MacBook(s)

I use it to Auto upload photos from my phone as well as cloud storage. Shared directories with my wife and son for easy sharing.

No real issues outside a couple painful upgrades in the past .

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have started trialling mega. 20GB free.

So far so good.

One minor annoyance I have had is keepass .kdb files. You can't just open from mega android, make changes and have it auto save back to the cloud. Have to save out, edit then share back in. There is a autosync app by a third party which I have not tried.

[–] Yinchie 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Filen.io for files and Ente.io for photos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How do you like Filen so far? I tried it out with a few directories and it felt very snappy. Plus, the .fileignore feature is phenomenal and I wish more providers would do it!

I heard when filen was first launched there were some issues with their encryption and some file loss, do you happen to know if this has largely been fixed? Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't use cloud storage anymore I migrated all my files to M-Disc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Iirc theyre these expensive discs that are highly resistant to disc rot (or something along those lines) for at least 1000 years. Kinda gimmicky tbh since it still needs to be stored properly to achieve that claim and suffers from the same problems as any other optical disc (the equipment needed to read and write and still durability)

[–] Landmammals 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Self hosted nextcloud works great for me. There have been a lot of improvements over the last few years, handling conflicts doesn't feel as clunky and I don't really run into as many unless I'm storing git repos in my NC directory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm curious, are there any ways to just not backup directories in a .gitignore type of way? I started trying out filen and this single feature is just very very compelling for me

I haven't used NC in a while but the improvements seem good at first glance!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I migrated all my cloud files to M-Discs because in the near future, even if I encrypt my files with PGP before sending them to the cloud, big tech will be able to break their encryption. I don't trust any big tech.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Curious why M-disc specifically? Isn't that storage media kind of expensive for the amount of storage space you get? Plus unless every disc is getting buried in a capsule, you would still have to baby it like any other optical disc even though its more durable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Check out YUNOhost. If you've gone off Nextcloud and just want to sync files you could simply install Syncthing and be done with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I run it myself in a datacenter. I do basically anything and everything I want off my own hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you want to backup or do you want to file share/work together on documents?

For backup I use Spideroak for all our families computers. It did a solid job over the last four Linux laptops and MacBooks I used. I only backup the home directory and the external drive with my Photo Library.

For Cloud Storage I use OneDrive. I don’t have much to share, so this is normally enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'd say like 65% backup, 35% share/collaboration. It's why this simple decision has become unnecessarily complex for me haha. I want a balance of privacy, yet I want the ease of access and user-friendliness of Dropbox.

From this thread, I think ente is partly perfect for my needs. I've been trying out filen and it's been quite good, but I might stick with Dropbox till the Proton mac app launches and see how it is.

Might end up just doing NC + storej, though. Many have said NC has improved significantly as of late so it might be worth a look at once more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Mega

I pay for it anyway since I was lucky enough to get a few accounts on a private forum where everything is shared via mega, it's very active and a great community. Only a few times I haven't found something I was looking for there, and that was quickly solved by posting a request. (The only way to join is to get personally invited. And no, I won't use my invites for randoms, don't ask).

Haven't used torrents for close to a decade now, it's nice to have basically anything easily findable with direct download from mega.

[–] Noel 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mega.

Free.

50 gb. Signed up years ago.

end-to-end encrypted, client side. they claim they don't have my decryption key. But don't ask me why/how tho, since i'm not Bruce Schneier.

Nice, various, and widespread 3rd-party clients especially for Android.

Good user base. No one share sugarsync, or box.com

Reslient service, i hope. I remember i once have Copy.com account, but they closed. RIP Zippyshare, etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seconded. Still got my free 50GB Mega from years ago. I'm assuming they will reduce it someday but I shall use it at its fullest til that day comes.

Their clients are also source available, but I don't think many outside people check them anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What files from your Mac are you trying to sync to next cloud? If you have a Truenas already, why are you hosting files from your Mac instead of mapping a share directly from your Truenas into Nextcloud and working directly off of the source instead?

As for syncing photos from my phone to Nextcloud, I've had no issues over the past 3 years hosting it myself. I had one problem with a lot of conflicts where permissions on my truenas wouldn't allow nextcloud to delete them, so I had a manual cleanup process last month but that's the only problem I've had. I just switched to Truenas a few months ago from QNAP and am still learning the caveats of their very granular permissions but everything generally works about 99% of the time.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Atm a burner dropbox account with cryptomator on top. Going to see how mega works with cryptomator and hopefully that will be my replacement

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