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[–] comrade19 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought it was so you know what youre buying was made with less damage to the environment from pesticides.

[–] Hackerman_uwu 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Common misconception promoted by wellness ghouls.

Organic farming means that fertilisers are made from natural sources not chemical fertilisers.

Pesticides have exactly zero to do with organic vs conventional farming.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe it's different in the US, but in Denmark, organic means no artificial fertilizers as well as no pesticides.

[–] SpaceNoodle 9 points 1 year ago

In the US, it means they use different pesticides.

[–] Hackerman_uwu 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Farming without pesticides would be an excercise in absurdity. There are natural options but “no pesticides” isn’t a thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's possible, I'm not sure, but there are definitely heavy restrictions on the pesticides you can use to call your product organic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USDA organic absolutely prohibits the majority of pesticides. That's where the standard is most restrictive as there are very few organic pesticides.

[–] Hackerman_uwu 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting. Thanks for clearing that up, I was not aware.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re still drowned in pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers.

It’s just that they have to use ORGANIC pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they still watered with used fracking fluid?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, but I don’t want to ingest it any more than Roundup!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It should also be noted that organic farming typically uses twice the land area per calories produced, so it's in ways worse for the environment since it requires more land to be converted to farms.

[–] JayObey711 4 points 1 year ago

Yea I had to do a presentation of food labeling (in the EU I should add). And let me tell you, the fish labelings are bullshit. I mean msc and the other one. They have shit rules that are not even enforced. There have been cases of forced labour on ships that work for msc companies. They also do nothing to protect the sea or the environment at all.

The best labels are the V labels and the EU label. V has strict rules and is known for barging into food productions to check for quality and environmental impact. EU labels are the absolute standard for all products. So although the requirements are not that high they improve the quality of food in Europe and of course sue every company that does not comply.

[–] dohpaz42 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm interested to know when and where he said this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It looks like it was back in 2000.

In announcing the finalized rules, former Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman was careful to delineate how consumers should regard the new organic label, calling it “a marketing tool. . .not a statement about food safety.”

https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt0201_98b