Well if trump had his way we would be living in a dictatorship soโฆ
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Right? There isn't even a comparison.
Yes
Bush may have started devastating wars that lasted for decades, but I blame Trump for the war in Ukraine. There have been no worse war since WWII. And it may have been prevented if Ukraine would've received the military assistance during his Presidency they were asking for before Russia invaded.
Ukraine. There have been no worse war since WWII.
17,000 civilian deaths in Ukraine vs 280,000 in Iraq. What is your definition of "worse"?
Russia invaded in 2014
Definitely Trump. Tried to subvert democracy, wholly unprofessional attitude as president (in my opinion the first president to not even attempt "rising to the office" at all), handled the economy with the tact of a middle schooler, and (allegedly) divulged / kept classified documents. He is also a civilly liable rapist. All of this I think makes Trump the third worst president of all time, behind James Buchanan and Franklin Pierce.
George Bush is easily the second worst president in modern history, his initial response to 9/11 was a highpoint, but afterwards he started a useless war and, although he incorrectly wouldn't see it this way, bent at the knee to terrorism by subverting constitutional rights for the purposes of mass searches and seizures of information without a warrant or reasonable cause. (i.e. Patriot Act). It's been a while since I hashed out a whole list, but I believe I had Bush somewhere between 7th and 12th worst or so.
Both are absolute pieces of shit.
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of the two, Trump did more damage while he was president and had the bigger riot when he lost the popular vote, but Bush's legacy of damage lasted from when he launched his forever wars in 02 all the way into the Biden administration
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Bush. But most people will say Trump simply because its more recent.
Trump, hands down. Bush at least tried to be a president.
Bush, but he had a more classy kind of dumb evil. The kind where you keep your mouth shut. Dumb evil + mouth that won't shut up is just unbearable in the moment. But looking back historically I think Bush's actual actions as a leader will appear the most fucked up in recent history. This is like comparing unstoppable diarrhea to constipation so bad you are vomiting shit though.
Especially galling was "W" making a "funny" video where he pretended he was looking for weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). Quite the pos in retrospect.
ETA: Found it, sorry quality is so poor. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5YgJx8VGRA
Bush was worse internationally, Trump was worse domestically. If he got one more term, who'd know?
Bush was much worse in effect, because his administration was much more competent. Our most recent former President was a worse person and an awful President domestically, but was largely ineffective at actual bad governance.
George literally succeeded at doing a coup through the Supreme court