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Big agree on roguelike. It's both annoying and entertaining how a whole genre of somewhat popular titles are only described in reference to another basically ancient title.
And some of them have gameplay that doesn't compare all that well to Rogue, but are similar to something else that was considered roguelike! It's just this vague descriptor with a constantly shifting definition depending on who is using it.
No hate intended towards the titles or the players, just language being funny 🤣
We should just call the Issaclikes at this point lol
I started to use the Japanese term "search action" rather than Metroidvania unironically, sue me.
Yeah, it sounds silly, but it's descriptive and feels less limiting to me than "a game that looks like Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night". I love those two, but lots of games do the big interconnected map with ability gates, and they're not that close to them.
Some of those even don't have a map made of blue rectangles! Only like 90% of them.
Really, if we can do with genre names that are not built like that in general, all the better. I'm not going to the library to read a FrankenDracula or a DuneFoundation or whatever.
I definitely agree with you on "character action" but I don't think it's the worst. I just call them "action" games.
MOBA, Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. That could apply to so many games that are nothing alike, other than having battles in an arena with other players using the internet. Street Fighter, Mainline Pokemon Games, Quake, and Warframe could all fit that genre name but it is not used for any of them.
Me and my friends talk all the time about which mechanics make an rpg an actual rpg or just unnecessary bullshit to call it an rpg. Any game where you can play a role in a world is an rpg to someone and any game with more than 2 people is "massively multiplayer" to someone making it an mmo. Its all vague nonsense to me.
My eyes gloss over a little bit when I hear "modern platformer" but my most hated would be full loot RPG. A paradise for greifers, not fun for anyone else.
I like the term boomer shooter. The reason is the alliteration. But more importantly…
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I think you mean the rhyming?
The short definition of alliteration is “the repetition of sounds, not just letters.” In this case the oo..er, oo..er. So I said what I meant.
You mentioned the -likes ones, which I really don't like, but "Soulslike" takes the cake and I absolutely loathe using it. Might be a bit biased here because I think Fromsoft's Souls games feel very bland and I really enjoy Team Ninja's versions of this genre, instead (had an absolute blast with Nioh and Wo Long, and am currently addicted to Stranger of Paradise)
What is a boomer shooter?
Pretty much any shooter that plays like Quake or Doom
Oh.
Then I love boomer shooters lmao.
I think the question is more if you like the term.
I don't worry myself on how the kids nowadays call the stuff I like. I just like what I like.
I just like what I like.
Right. That was the question.
Then you find yourself in a great position. I’m about to get Boltgun myself
As opposed to more modern twitch (faster reflex) shooters.
they also go by retro, classic, or arena shooters, like 90s doom
Back in my day we used to just call them shooters.
@MoreIronOre @toxicbubble The gaming community will call them Zoomer Shooters in the next couple of decades. 😆
Favorite: Metroidvania. It's kind of a simple name since it mashes Metroid and Castlevania but it's always been very straightforward. It's a cool name that says everything you need it to say about the game usually. It's broad enough to be a genre, but specific enough that you know exactly what you're in for.
Least favorite: ARPG (Action RPG). It bothers me a lot that it means "diablo clone" and not an RPG with action in it. I assume back in the day they used to call it ARPG because a game that isn't turnbased was novel, but boy did it not age well. Is dark souls not an action RPG? The name's very misleading.
wait what? i've always used arpg to mean "rpg or rpg-adjacent game with realtime combat rather than turn-based". dark souls, witcher, deus ex etc. i'd all call arpgs
I mean, look at the steam tags for arpg (not that steam tags are a great metric)
Yeah steam tags are never really accurate. ARPG now means specifically diablo clone, if you search for it you'll see articles like https://www.pcgamer.com/best-action-rpg-pc/ which talk about ARPGs only in the context of diablo clones.
99% of "roguelike" games make no sense to me. Is it turn-based? Is it based on a map of discrete tiles? Is it top down?
If it's not all of those things, then what does the name even mean?
Honestly, I don't get bothered by this. If you and I are having a conversation and you know what I'm talking about then the name did it's job. Thing is, these names work because their popular, if I say character action game, regardless of how descriptive the name actually is, you'll 90% of the time still know what I'm talking about. Same with rougelikes, at this point the genre has strayed so far from rouge you could justifiably call it something else, but no one does, because everyone knows what a rougelike is. Thus we will continue to call them RPGs, rouglikes, character action games, beat 'em ups, and what have you.