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When I was on Reddit I felt like my opinion didn’t matter. But here it just feels more open and free.

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[–] [email protected] 165 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Every comment I would make on Reddit seemed to get challenged by someone looking to start a long-winded argument as they were, in fact, the main character of the universe.

I like it here because so far, people are nice. It’s like the first day of high school and everyone just wants to be friends and meet people.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No karma competition here. It has a bigger effect on behaviour than you'd think.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s like a little trophy or a symbol of validity to some people. You’d see big edits addressing downvoted as if people got personally hit in the head with them.

I don’t blame people though because viscerally, these things are little tokens of “approval” by others at large.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit gamified participation, and the result was an addiction to trying to say things that people would click the updoot for. Here, the comment / post score is used purely to determine the relevance and value of the individual comments and posts. I think the result is clear: people feel less compelled to post the meme, the shitpost, the expected something and are more likely to express a thought they have, or think is valuable to the conversation.

The result is less stuff, but the stuff is more nuanced, interesting, and engaging (even if the engagement metrics are lower). It's also a less stressful environment to interact with, and is just kinda all around better since no one is trying to profit

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

God, I love this place. Instead of having to navigate through a mob of idiots to express an opinion or have a discussion, it's simply informed, quality discussion from top to bottom. What a good feeling, almost gives me hope for humanity

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Cherish it now haha. If this place ever gets a lot more popular, you’ll start seeing all sorts of dumb takes and behaviours again 🤪

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I feel like your characterization of Reddit users as long-winded and contrarian is inaccurate and frankly offensive. Let me write you several paragraphs about why you’re wrong, sprinkled with thinly veiled personal insults and outright harsh commentary about you as a person.

Sorry, just trying to make it feel like our old home :)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Lmao this was good. You forgot to comb through my post history to see if you can make your comment even more hard-hitting by referencing a personal problem I have that was highlighted in a post or comment from 6 months ago 🤪

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.

No but fr, huge fan of these communities. The voices that search out an argument don’t seem to gain quite as much traction on fedi (yet, at least). Probably due to them having a larger overall audience on reddit to feel validated by. Hopefully it stays that way!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like I can say the words Tiannamen and Square and not feel like bots are out to get me 🙂

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

The misinfo on Reddit is wild. Just shows people don’t understand federation and how the views of one instances’ moderators doesn’t impact what people can say or do on other instances.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I‘m way more active here. I want that place to survive and become the new home for former redditors.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Same here, forced me out of my lurker shell. 😅

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes. It’s far less hostile here and I don’t fear getting downvoted to hell for asking a question.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Excellent point and I totally agree.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

Deleted My reddit account , tried all of the fediverse before but always went back to propriety for same reason as anyone else. Everyone is there. With the Reddit exodus I feel this will get the push it needs

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm more active here. You can actually post comments without idiots being toxic about it for no reason. You can actually make posts without them getting removed for no reason. It's great.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm not only commenting more (because I'm not afraid people will bite my head off for everything I say) I'm also reading a lot more comments in general. I think it's for the same reason, the comment threads seem to involve actual constructive discourse. It's funny that I read fewer posts here than I did at Reddit but I spend a lot more time per post.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It feels like you can join in later. There are not thousands of replies in the first few hours. So commenting or participating was a waste of time before in many bigger subs. Noone would ever see your answer anyway or interact with you, so there was really no point.

Here it feels like you are actually participating in some way. I really like it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

When I joined Lemmy I decided I wanted to engange with the community here on Lemmy, since I on Reddit I just lurked, so I'm much more active here.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not yet. My niche communities don’t exist in the fediverse yet like they do on Reddit, and I do not have the bandwidth to start new communities right now. Excited to watch it grow and continue to contribute where I can.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was a 10 year lurker on reddit. Now I have my own Lemmy instance

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reddit comments just get washed away by millions of other users. Where as in this place it's not as competitive so yea I understand what you mean.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am because I feel it's great to be a part of the growing numbers of the platform. Everything is a bit rough around the edges and it gives it a 'far west' feel

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I used to be pretty active on Reddit and I kinda became more and more "sour" and unfriendly over there, because the whole community just dragged me down for some reason.

Here, it's like a breath of fresh air and most people are actually quite nice. Topics have finally become more interesting and there's no such thing as an echochamber. Critical thinking seems to be possible here, as well.

So yes, I became way more active again since I'm on Lemmy. Also, I host my own instance and I put a lot of effort into it, so I want it to be in good standing with other instances. Participating in friendly conversations will help with that.

[–] kraegar 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The number of times I have written a long comment and then simply deleted it before posting is too high.

Lemmy just has a better vibe? Idk

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I want to comment more but I often don't have much to say. I've made it a goal to comment more though, because I want to see this platform succeed.

I love the enthusiasm in this thread but if we the mass migration of reddit users that I am hoping for, the toxicity and annoying reddit behaviors are probably coming along with them. I am hopeful that this place will at least stay much more open and free.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Lemmy still feels really easygoing, kind of feels like Reddit in 2011.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I feel like I can contribute more since the communities are smaller, but I haven't had much of value to say. Haven't really found my niche yet like I had on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Yea. Literally every reddit comment I posted resulted in someone replying to me in a toxic way.

I've only blocked one person on lemmy and that's because they were replying to me in a toxic manner. That's the first reply I've had that's toxic, and I nipped it in the bud. I don't care to have fighting matches back and forth.

Have you noticed if you go to Reddit and click on any thread, usually within the first comment thread, someone will be hating on another person? Fuck that.

I'd honestly suggest everyone block anyone who is being toxic. Not to mention, others don't want to see your drama while looking through comments.

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[–] Raxiel 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Gonna have to buck the trend and say, no.

I had good experiences on Reddit, I was active in a few different communities and had good engagement without the 'avalanche of toxic responses' some people here are describing.

I'm leaving Reddit due to the changes at the top, not because of problems at the grass roots.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Been trying to go out of my way to be more active on here. Help the platform grow ya know?

I usually lurk for months at a time then comment once or twice a year on any forum.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I check Lemmy multiple times per day now!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Still trying to “find my place” here but I am enjoying the whole thing. Lots of awesome discussions popping up and great conversation here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah I'm easy more active here that on Reddit, though I was very active when Reddit was younger. It just got too big and lost that feeling of taking to actual people and contributing to the overall experience.

[–] InfiniteFlow 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Undoubtedly! I was always more of a lurker, but I think I've posted as many comments here in the last couple of weeks as I did in 11 years of Reddit... Lemmy is, somehow, much more inviting.

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[–] Daisychan 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes! English is not my first language, so commenting on Reddit made me nervous. I find Lemmy to be more forgiving (if that makes sense?) as well.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes. Got to the point on reddit where I almost never commented because of the ackshually types.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think so. I feel the camaraderie is much higher here as well, since we’re all refugees together in a sense, but also part of a great new thing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m making myself be active here. I’m learning to build my own lemmy instance on a VPS.

I want there to be a sea change in social media. I want an authentic intellectual conversation. I was in college during the usenet era and found it easy to find mind expanding stuff there with a minimum of toxicity.

My hope is the community and software mature steadily together until it is ready to handle a significant influx.

Let’s not reward toxicity. We need to steer the conversation and the software development to reward quality engagement over quantity.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I'm trying to be! I'm definitely voting more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Yes. I'm looking forward to more original content rather that all of the reposts from reddit. I'm not sure when that tipping point will be, but I hope it doesn't have to do anything with poo.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, absolutely! I did a lot of consuming on Reddit, and only participated in a couple specific communities.

Here, I feel far more inclined to actively participate.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Current Lemmy feels a lot more like early reddit. At the same time I don't think it has hit its Eternal September moment. The site is still primarily the domain of early adopters and people who care about the community.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reddit comment threads are currently just full of groupmind wankery. I like being on a platform where I don't 100% agree with everyone and I don't have to hold "sanctioned" opinions that are approved by a mod team of 3.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Definitely.

For example, I've just written and posted a comment in this very thread. That's more than I'd ever do in a thread like this on Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

After the reddit apolcalypse and blackouts. I became less active over there. I still check some subreddits from time to time. But, my activity is low. I only have time to be active in one social network at a time. I chose lemmy.

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