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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know people who are left leaning democrats and they're for gun control. But gun control doesn't solve the problem entirely.

The problem is the entire culture around guns and toxic 'me and my gun and my truck' self sufficiency culture in the US and the lack of a social net.

[–] not_that_guy05 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Yes it is. I was downvoted to shit last time I said we should have the mandatory 10 days waiting period and background checks. Had nothing but what ifs.

People treating firearms as fuckin toys should be banned. Your firearm was on unattended and your child killed himself or an other person? Straight to jail. Fuckin hate that people have lost the respect of the tool they are using.

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[–] uis 4 points 1 year ago

Sounds more like asshole culture

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was the man not in the national guard? Seems he was exactly a part of a well regulated militia. That doesn't just automatically stop gun crime.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the point. It isn't well-regulated.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The National Guard is not well regulated? Im gonna wager your definition of well regulated is a body in which nothing bad ever happens, which is not what well regulated means, that's called perfection.

If the national guard isnt considered well regulated then nothing is, and clearly the writers of the bill didnt intend for 'well regulated' to be an impossible standard. So if well regulated is going to mean something it didnt mean from the authors then that phrase no longer has bearing on the right, and shockingly enough the US Judicial system agrees with and upheld that.

This was a shooting by a member of a well regulated milita. That phrase or organization structure is not a magic spell that stops crime. The authors would have written 'crime free' instead of well regulated if that's what they meant.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (19 children)

If a memeber of said Militia can spend 2 weeks in a psychiatric ward for hearing voices in his head telling him to shoot up the said Militia he is a part of and still keep the means to carry out the will of said voices it isn't well-regulated, sorry not sorry. The term Well-Regulated doesnt automatically mean it is going to be regulated.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If the national guard isnt considered well regulated then nothing is

Ignoring the fact that this is obviously a false dichotomy........ Have you ever served in the guard or active duty military? The guard especially from certain states, is usually known for being an unorganized shit show. Active duty has its obvious issues, but they also have a lot more control over their personnel, including who they keep and promote.

In the guard, as long as you show up for roll call and pass your test you're pretty much promoted until you want to leave. Which is why the last few military pr blunders were committed by officers or NCO in the reserves.

I doubt you would find many people who served in the reserves that would claim they were well organized or well regulated.

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent 9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

He was in a militia, but ok

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

But was it well regulated?

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[–] Kjatten 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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