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[–] Son_of_dad 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't fully fix homelessness unless you also accept that some people would need to be forcibly removed and put into treatment, which most people who claim to want to end homelessness are against.

No matter how many programs and funding, you'll have the small percentage that is mentally ill/violent/unwilling to receive help.

[–] Custoslibera -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So here’s two solutions to the problem you’ve outlined:

  1. Housing First - which is a policy that prioritises putting a person in a house above all else even if they are unwell.

  2. Supported Accommodation - it’s a service where people who need extra support (like people with mental health issues) can live in a close knit community that has access to health services.

The number of people who you’re talking about in either of these categories though is quite small compared to the majority of homeless people who have jobs and are just unable to afford a home.

[–] Son_of_dad 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right but that's what I'm saying, my city does ok providing for people in need, but our issue is that we have mentally ill and downright at times dangerous people who are known to everyone. But we can't forcibly remove them and throwing them in jail does no good, so they're allowed to kinda terrorize people, and we all deal with it.

[–] Custoslibera 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like your city needs more health services then.

[–] Son_of_dad 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, how does that help a mentally ill person who refuses it?

[–] Custoslibera 2 points 1 year ago

I’m not really sure what you’re getting at.

I don’t know the specific laws in your country but in mine if someone is having an acute mental crisis they can be given an Involuntary Patient Order which means they have to stay at a hospital.

These laws already exist where I am, I don’t see the connection between accepting they exist and that they are necessary to solve homelessness.

[–] robocall 1 points 1 year ago

Does Jennifer make him smoke outside?

[–] surfb -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If homelessness was solved. Why would you work a full-time job?

[–] kplaceholder 3 points 1 year ago

Good point. So let's get rid of full-time jobs, reconsider our relationship with work, and improve working conditions everywhere so that people's time spent at their jobs can be shorter and more meaningful.

I'd rather not live under the perpetual threat that losing my pointless job might mean losing everything else. I'd also rather not have the need to preserve full-time jobs in turn justify homelessness.

[–] PP_BOY_ -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Please show me a single non-capitalist country that "solved" homelessness

[–] spittingimage 0 points 1 year ago

Why do you talk like oligarchy and communism are the only two options?

[–] Custoslibera -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There aren’t any that I’m aware of.

Do you think capitalism will solve homelessness?