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what's the point of policing this arbitrary item?

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[–] ConTheLibrarian 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's a leftover from Christian tradition.

1 Corintians 11: 4 - 7 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. 7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8

[–] axolittl 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Casmael 3 points 1 year ago
[–] kozel 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In roman (in contrary to greek) paganism the priest would have covered head during rituals (google capite velato). I don't know if and how much is it related to this, however.

EDIT: After checking some commentaries, it seems it's not this way; more like being uncovered/covered would mean being in/under authority, according to custom of that time and place.

[–] what 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My theory is that modern (post industrialization) schools fundamental purpose in society is not to educate but to prepare a workforce. They acclimate people into accepting very arbitrary rules that will be normative in the work place.

There's a lot written on this and a fair amount of disagreement. Here is a decent high level / non academic article. https://qz.com/1314814/universal-education-was-first-promoted-by-industrialists-who-wanted-docile-factory-workers

[–] MercuryUprising 2 points 1 year ago

Its more daycare for the two parent working household these days

[–] WhoRoger 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Schools are all about conformity and enforcing arbitrary rules. Schools are designed to make you docile and get used to bullshit so you're less likely to revolt in your job.

[–] MothBookkeeper 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Only reasons I can guess:

Traditionally, it's considered disrespectful to wear hats inside. Why that tradition exists, I'm not sure, but it's one of those etiquette things, like not putting your elbows on the table.

It could also be along the same lines as hoods - obscuring your face and making policing the school harder.

[–] Zak 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suspect the tradition came from hats being used to protect one's head from the elements. Wearing one indoors suggests a lack of confidence in the building.

[–] cedarmesa 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] WhoRoger 1 points 1 year ago

I love these kinds of explanations

[–] nihilist_hippie 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've heard from a teacher in my high school over a decade ago that while it is disrespectful for men to wear hats indoors, traditionally women were exempt from this expectation.

[–] ConTheLibrarian 8 points 1 year ago

It's a leftover from Christian tradition.

1 Corintians 11: 4 - 7 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. 7 A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8

[–] Lapus 1 points 1 year ago

They were, but has nothing to do with modern rules.

[–] WhoRoger 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

While the Sikh find it disrespectful to not wear a head covering inside some buildings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not just Sikh. It's a requirement in the worship halls of synagogues as well (though a tiny kippa is enough).

[–] MercuryUprising 1 points 1 year ago

Don't they constantly wear their turbans? I thought you basically have to wear that thing all the time

[–] Lapus 8 points 1 year ago

Teacher here in urban environment.
Reasons for no hats

  1. A million ways to cheat using hat.
  2. Can be used as a weapon
  3. Blocks view of other students
  4. Distracts other students
  5. Easiest way to pass bugs

All your reasons are way too intellectual to be a reason the government does anything.

[–] Casmael 2 points 1 year ago

Fuck I have no idea. Probably some kind of hangover from wierd victorian ideas about training the populace to accept authority and reduce individualism & identity idk. Fuck school.

[–] kozel 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My school had problems with students walking barefoot...

[–] lp0101 2 points 1 year ago

This is a rule I can understand

[–] spittingimage 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Students don't get to be warm. Only teachers get to be warm.

[–] MercuryUprising 3 points 1 year ago

Some animals are more equal than others