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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/513126

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TL;DR: This is not a DLC. This is Cyberpunk 2.0.

• virtually every system of the main game has been changed and/or updated • police system is completely reworked with multiple tiers of NCPD/mercs chasing you down in vehicles according to your wanted level, apparently on level 5 maxtac will chase you down and it will be some sort of bossfight against them (source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riK1i8lQwRM&t=511s) • perks and skills have been completely overhauled, no longer simple passive stat boosts, much more active abilities like different melee finishers, a dash, or the ability to deflect bullets with melee weapons • the difficulty curve is reworked/rebalanced • the loot tiers are reworked • archetypes of enemies have been redone for more variety in combat encounters • an entirely new 6th skill tree that uses a different type of skill points (relic points) that will be used to add new abilities to your cyberware • installing cyberware now has an effect on your body and you cant install too much or else you will go cyberpsycho (no idea what that looks like in game) • installing cyberware now has a first person cutscene added to it, just like in the prologue at Vik’s clinic • you can now “attune” cyberware to one of your attributes, making it more efficient if you have invested in that attribute; example here optical camo is attuned to the “cool” attribute: https://i.imgur.com/1UI9SEX.png • armor is no longer tied to clothing, it instead tied to your cybernetics • vehicle combat is added to the game, you can even use your katana on your bike • vehicles are no longer bought from fixers, but bought through a website set up by mama welles • some vehicles have guns installed on them (machine guns, rocket launchers) • new type of infinitely replayable/repeatable missions are being added where you need to steal certain vehicles marked on your map • new activity introduced “airdrops”, loot caches that drop randomly on the map that you can fight over and retrieve for yourself • tons of new random events/activities are added to make the world feel more alive, like car chases and gang fights

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[–] JoeKrogan 12 points 1 year ago

Good to know for when I pick it up in a future steam sale. Thanks for sharing

[–] simple 7 points 1 year ago

Being a patient gamer is bearing fruit once again. Glad I held off playing this before the DLC!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds more like this is the Cyberpunk v1.0 we were supposed to get.

[–] slaacaa 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they managed to actually finish the game ~3 years after the release? Seems like a delay would have helped.

Of course the update looks good, but I’m still very disappointed in the original game at release, so I’m not too enthusiastic about giving this a chance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Of course a delay would have helped, but they tried to rope in Hollywood and Keanu Reeves - which came with Hollywood contracts. They had to release in order to pay the actors, otherwise they would have been bankrupt from the penalty clauses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That sounds great, yes the game was overhyped to heck and back with some hilarious bugs but I still thoroughly enjoyed my playthrough. Will probably give it another go when it gets into autumn/winter here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seems awesome - I loved the base game (though playing modded on pc and 2y after launch might have helped) and wanted to do a fresh playthrough for the DLC. Looks like this will make it feel like a new game!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Good thing I stopped playing after the intro. Now I'll get to experience the whole game in more depth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

vehicle combat seems pretty awesome

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That is pretty exciting! I really enjoyed cyberpunk, regardless of all the bugs at launch and not having half the promised features.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed the original playthrough despite all it's warts, been waiting for it to get to "2.0" before picking it up again. Will have to wait to hear reviews on it, obviously, but everything sounds good so far.

[–] flux 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just started in on it for PC recently and the thing that I couldn't believe is how the dialogue is really really "off". Long pauses. Overlapping dialogue. Sometimes it would just cut off. This seems like it should be easy. It's literally a cut scene? Tons of indie games have no problem with this? Witcher 3 dialogue scenes were pretty perfect. I'd rather have this fixed then a bunch of added extras.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to be the brave soul that pre orders it, I will tell you guys on September 26 if you should buy it or not

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you ordered the PC version direct from CDPR then you'll get the expansions for free.

Edit: Maybe not, it's listed as a separate item on the GOG store page... CDPR might just be dropping their standards even more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No idea why it's listed separately on GOG, towards the end of the article it says:

The developer says it’s still discussing the exact details of when and how base game owners will receive the new systems, but that its intention is to deploy them for free. So as well as adding a sizable chunk of new story to Night City, Phantom Liberty looks like it could finally do good on many of the promises the base game failed to live up to for many

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wow. I was not expecting so many improvements. I haven't played the game since it launched. This makes me want to pick it up again.

[–] Targox 1 points 1 year ago

So these are officially no rumors anymore, this is GameSpot, we finally get the police etc. overhaul? Man, I'm so happy I waited this long to pick it up, can't wait!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Armor not being tied to clothes is easily the best change..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I bought this for $5 at Best Buy last year and it is still in the package. It looks like I might finally get a chance to play this.

[–] bizzle 1 points 1 year ago

Careful now, don't burn yourself on the hype. I'm sure PL will be fine but remember the first time?

[–] LittleKerr 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aaand I definitely have to play it again with the expansion. Looks more like the game that was promised, TBH

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

CDPR have always been good with this sort of thing. If you bought the Witcher games directly from them, you were upgraded to the GOTY edition.

They definitely screwed the release of Cyberpunk (imo because they got Keanu Reeves and negotiated a Hollywood contract) but they're still one of the better developers by far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's actually crazy that three years after release we get, what it seems like, finally the original vision for Cyberpunk. It's terrible that it took that long but kudos to them for sticking to it still after three years. Could be better obviously but it could be worse still. No pre orders is the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bought this game on the winter sale and haven´t played it yet (not much free time for me). Are these changes free, or paid?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The mechanics overhaul looks like it's going to be a free update for the base game, with the new story content and possibly the new 'relic' skill tree being the paid DLC.

They've said for sure that the base game is getting a significant update, but I don't think they've released an itemized list of what is going where yet. IMO I think it's safe to assume that the features REPLACING existing features like the new skill trees, cyberware system, etc. will all be free.

But stuff like vehicle combat might go either direction.