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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

In the recording one man says : "They say the rocket is from Jihadist" then the other one asked : "who says?" Then the other persob replies: "They say its local sharpnel not like the ones from Israeli rockets"

My point is: none of these people in the recording know anything for a fact. they are just telling what they have heard.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh my God, are we really using 'slams' even in reporting on major wars now?

Stop the planet, I want to get off.

[–] glimse 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The IDF claps back at Hamas

The IDF tells Hamas to take a WHOLE seat

👏The 👏 IDF 👏 DESTROYS 👏 Hamas' 👋 lies

[–] TokenBoomer 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did this article mention the other 6,000 bombs the IDF has dropped? Were those Hamas too?

[–] glimse 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not the one to ask, I was just riffing on the writer's choice to use YouTuber language

[–] TokenBoomer 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe we’ll get an unboxing or a react video during the ground invasion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TokenBoomer 1 points 1 year ago

I understand this reference, thanks ☺️

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The firey blast is from spent rocket fuel. Bombs don't react like that. This was 100% a hamas rocket.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could be from the petroleum from the cars. It looks like the missile hit right outside the parking lot. Most of the cars are burned through too.

Though I am not seeing images of a crater, and it looks like the hospital is still standing. If it was an airstrike, I would imagine there would be more physical damage. But that is just speculation of a air strike bombing run. I feel like there should be more rubble.

They went as far as to inflate the number of casualties,” he said.

Estimates given in a time of panic. But only a 200 casualty rate is fine. 201 and we'd have to send you off to the gulag.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 2 points 1 year ago

Not the initial explosion, no.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh... Hamas rockets (well Islamic Jihad rockets but same difference) don't have the firepower to cause this kind of destruction.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so? Have you seen the building?

[–] Wilshire 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The building wasn't even hit, it was the parking lot. Everything that was repeated by the media was made up by Hamas.

https://files.catbox.moe/9n76yx.mp4

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay that's fair enough for now, but then how did so many people die?

[–] Wilshire 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So far there's no evidence that "hundreds" were killed, over 100 perhaps, but not 500.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

FINALLY!, we have video:

https://twitter.com/qudsn/status/1714335703117570261

Whatever it was, the rocket was intact when it made landfall. It also looks like the hospital is still intact as the impact happened in the packing lot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not familiar with these things, but we can tell whose rocket this is from the sound right?

[–] Evilcoleslaw 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about that. For instance, this is what a US JDAM sounds like despite just being a gravity bomb with no propulsion of its own. Not sure what the Hamas/Islamic Jihad rockets sound like in their terminal phase.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

https://twitter.com/GrantSmithEllis/status/1714399186295111815?t=wxkjKFCi8k2oZ0FTiwxV1g&s=19

10-minute video captured by AJArabic around the time the al-Ahli hospital was hit.

As per @Ted55643099:

Explosions on this video: (0:19) hospital. (0:16, 4:25, 4:49) behind and to the left of the hospital. (5:33, 5:56, 9:26, 10:46) behind hospital, most likely the same place. (9:38, 10:51) to the right of the hospital outside of the frame, likely the same place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So this here is the current view on the area where supposedly about 500 people died. Also there are allegedly more than 300 wounded.

Questions I personally have:

  • where is the rubble and where is the bomb crater?
  • why does the building seem undamaged?
  • how do you fit 800 people in this parking lot?
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It was actually 1000 children, those are smaller and easily fit in the parking lot. I know that because the honorable health ministry of ~~Hamas~~ Gaza said so.

[–] ShunkW -1 points 1 year ago

This after Israel previously claimed responsibility for the bombing? Sure. Totally believable.